Bird Flu

[geordie1234]

So I cant let my birds out tomorrow ?

No as they can mix with wild birds mate

[Guest IB]

http://www.gov.scot/Topics/farmingrural/Agriculture/animal-welfare/Diseases/disease/avian

 

 

I haven't read it all

 

The advice posted comes from the Official site (not a news broadcaster like BBC) and says the Order applies to Poultry and Captive Birds. Captive Birds includes Pigeons. It also says that Gatherings are allowed, and that includes Shows.

 

14 infected sites 'on the wild fowl migration path' in Germany and France. No outbreaks here. This is purely a precautionary measure within UK.

[Roland]

Thanks for the post Tony. Confirms what I said regards shows and keeping ALL in.

[REDCHEQHEN]

Our local authority has put notices up at the allotment site most of our members use

[blackswan]

looks like the Christmas day race will be down the swanny?

[Novice]

Maybe a period of no racers exercising around the loft could be an opportunity

[sandy25]

Thank you for your email.

 

 

 

I have copied the guidance below from GOV.UK which covers taking birds to shows. All up to date information can also be found here : https://www.gov.uk/guidance/avian-influenza-bird-flu

 

 

 

Here is the guidance.

 

 

 

GATHERINGS AND SHOWS

 

Q. Am I still able to show birds as they will be kept in baskets and cages, etc?

 

•       Gatherings of poultry and other captive birds have not been banned or restricted.

 

•       You should ensure you maintain good biosecurity  

 

•       Birds should be well and fit for the intended journey.

 

•       Birds and containers should be kept clean as far as possible

 

Q. Should I cancel shows/fairs/school visits etc?

 

•       Not necessarily.  Provided that your birds are kept separate from wild birds such events can still go ahead. 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Krista Rooney

Correspondence and Business Planning Manager

 

Executive Support and Correspondence Management Unit

 

mail from APHA TODAY

[sandy25]

FAO all SHU members – The following affects you – Gatherings such as shows areNOT affected

 

 

 

Dear Colleague

 

 

 

You may wish to note a Scottish Government press release issued this evening. 

 

 

 

At 17:00hrs on 6 December 2016 Scottish Ministers declared an Avian Influenza Prevention Zone covering the whole of Scotland, requiring that all poultry and captive birds must be kept indoors, or otherwise kept separate from wild birds.  Bird keepers must also apply heightened biosecurity measures where practical.  The full text of the declaration, including the list of requirements for bird keepers, can be found at www.gov.scot/avianinfluenza, however, a copy of the declaration is attached for your information.  A risk assessment assessing the effect of housing on the risk from H5N8 has also been published.

 

 

 

The zone will be kept under review and will initially remain in place for 30 days. 

 

 

 

Outbreaks of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (H5N8) have been confirmed in poultry and wild birds in several countries across Europe. No cases of H5N8 have been found recently in the UKand this Prevention Zone is a precautionary measure to help prevent potential infection in captive birds and poultry from wild birds.

 

 

 

You may wish to pass this alert on to your members as appropriate.

 

 

 

Kind regards

 

 

 

Alastair Douglas

 

 

[sandy25]

Post 32 should read APHA

That was my fault

all the best

sandy

[blackswan]

will they put a ban on birds coming in from the continent ? are the spring fare trips still going ahead?.

[sandy25]

Movement controls and licences

 

There aren’t any specific movement controls or licences at the moment.

 

Bird fairs, markets, shows and other gatherings

 

We have published guidance on when you need a licence for a bird gathering and how to follow the licence conditions.

 

Gatherings or shows of poultry and other captive birds have not been banned or restricted under the Prevention Zones which are currently in force across England, Scotland and Wales.

 

 

This is all I could find from D E F R A site

It doesn't say anything about imports though perhaps you could email them and ask they say you might not get an answer for 15 days but they answered me in one , best of luck

sandy

[REDCHEQHEN]

Our local authority has put notices up at the allotment site most of our members use

And a notice saying failure to comply can result in a substantial fine!

[kingziemckay]

there doesnt seem to be any restrictions on birds being imported in to the uk?

[Guest IB]

It all depends where they are coming from. This is a Highly Pathogenic strain and within and between the Zones locked down on the Continent, there is no movement of birds permitted, nor is it permitted to import birds from affected Zones.

[Dave barrie]

what is the problem here, what kind of migrating birds do we have up here in the north, my doo,s arnt captive nor are they poultry, the same thing every year at this time, is it to put price up for xmas dinner i wonder? i dont see wild birds dropping oot of sky with disease, my birds are open bowl but i have closed them in poor buggers but i cant see the problem , mebbe the disease only affects confined birds ie poultry???.

[tiger]

what is the problem here, what kind of migrating birds do we have up here in the north, my doo,s arnt captive nor are they poultry, the same thing every year at this time, is it to put price up for xmas dinner i wonder? i dont see wild birds dropping oot of sky with disease, my birds are open bowl but i have closed them in poor buggers but i cant see the problem , mebbe the disease only affects confined birds ie poultry???.

 

Good post

[Delboy]

A friend of mine contacted DEFRA about the bird flu and their are NO RESTRICTIONS to racing pigeons.

[REDCHEQHEN]

A friend of mine contacted DEFRA about the bird flu and their are NO RESTRICTIONS to racing pigeons.

 

 

In what respect are you talking about?

 

They are confined to the loft - that is a restriction

[Dave barrie]

our birds are all veccinated every year aqainst the pox and everything they arnt wild or are they captive also they arnt poultry, totaly different species,i cant for the life of me see how this affects lads n lassies flyin a doo round the house, it beggars beleaf that jhonny foreiner has a problem and we have to suffer by it.

[dunc50]

swans, geese, wood pigeons, a host of finches, fieldfares, redwings, woodcock ect all over winter here from europe,

[Delboy]

In what respect are you talking about?

 

They are confined to the loft - that is a restriction

 

They are not confined to the loft, NO RESTRICTIONS

[Guest IB]

Just to clear things up a bit. This is the definitions taken from the Legislation:

 

"other captive birds" means a bird kept in captivity which is not poultry and includes a bird kept for shows, races, exhibitions, competitions, breeding or for sale; and

 

"poultry" means a bird reared or kept in captivity for the production of meat or eggs for consumption, or of other products, for restocking supplies of game, or for the purposes of any breeding programme for the production of such categories of birds;

[Upsndoons]

Confinement is about risk management to my mind. There may not be any cases here or for that matter the rest of the U.K. however common sense says if exposure to the risk can be reduce before any outbreak gets a foothold then large scale infection is reduced.

Just think. About how you would feel if your birds got infected and started dropping of the perches.

At least at this time of year the quite and rest will not do any harm and we stand a good chance of eliminating the threat of an outbreak in the racing season.

What would we prefer, confinement now and reduce the risk or no racing in 2017.

 

Ask any pig or cattle farmer what a nation wide infectious diseases can do to livelihoods and hobbies - foot and mouth scarred may.

 

Think it through.

 

My birds will not be out for the 30 days

[Cliftonlad]

Hope the BOP don't get it what a problem that would be.

[REDCHEQHEN]

They are not confined to the loft, NO RESTRICTIONS

Hefty fine for not complying please look at NEHU and RPRA sites. It is compulsory BIRDS HAVE TO BE CONFINED TO THEIR LOFT until 6th January 2017. Our local authority have stuck compulsory notices up at allotments containing pigeons