Syria

[eastcoaster]

cant see it doing any good now we have told them we are coming to bomb them unless there half wits they wont be there we need to follow up with ground troops to wipe them out and the snp has lost my vote after reading there outlook shut your eyes and it will go away

and agree we must get them out our country first not enough condemnation from there country men over here for my liking and if one member of a family is found to be supporting these murders in anyway they and there full family should be shipped back to where they came from imo

hear hear to that Walter

[We man]

No foot soldiers going from the UK but the enemy have thousands in the UK,no need to guess who is the smart guys.

[airdrie2]

same all same all you will never get the truth the whole truth from any goverment cameron will be doing the tour after pm the same as blair

[paddymac]

:emoticon-0136-giggle:

[William Reid]

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[Gogga]

cant see it doing any good now we have told them we are coming to bomb them unless there half wits they wont be there we need to follow up with ground troops to wipe them out and the snp has lost my vote after reading there outlook shut your eyes and it will go away

and agree we must get them out our country first not enough condemnation from there country men over here for my liking and if one member of a family is found to be supporting these murders in anyway they and there full family should be shipped back to where they came from imo

Spot on.

[ayelate]

Why the fook is this the SNP's fault lol

Think you'll find the snp want to allow thousands of immigrants in if they gain independence

[geordie1234]

Think you'll find the snp want to allow thousands of immigrants in if they gain independence

I thought that was already happening considering 370,000 ppl immagrated to the UK this year

[knoxjn]

the snp need to get anyone in to help pay the taxes mate as the sums that were spouted before the vote don't add up surprise surprise

[tiger]

the snp need to get anyone in to help pay the taxes mate as the sums that were spouted before the vote don't add up surprise surprise

 

 

and the tory s do ? a billion pound a week they are borrowing

[philg50]

I thought that was already happening considering 370,000 ppl immagrated to the UK this year

You mean to tell us some one has been counting ,nae chance they have not got a clue about numbers that's come in ,now or before the Syria carry on.

[geordie1234]

Deficit has went up a trillion since tories came in

[VAGIN]

Deficit has went up a trillion since tories came in

 

And maybe a wee bit more now. As its £800,000 per bomb being dropped. Where did they find the money to fund this expensive habit ???

[geordie1234]

And maybe a wee bit more now. As its £800,000 per bomb being dropped. Where did they find the money to fund this expensive habit ???

Correct mate

[peter pandy]

Deficit has went up a trillion since tories came in

Is that not what they have had to borrow to pay off labour's debts ?.

[Roland]

Terrorists eh! Well the reality, truth of the matter is that BOTH sides are calling each other terrorists. Bombing women and children. Destroying the homes and lands is terrorism regardless of any excuse. Retaliations eh!

Like back in 1920 when the public were bombed in Spain. Leading to mass destruction of towns and cities all over the world. Vastly killing and maiming those people living in them. A wanton destruction of innocence! In a so called 'Right'. - Meaning no profit in PEACE! Likewise in Syria. Gas and profits at the expense of human life.

Simple adage say. A nutter and a few dozen idiots from, say South Glasgow, nip over and set a few bombs off in say. Some suicidal bombers follow suit... say in India. Does that give India the right to bomb Glasgow and ovbliviate Edinburgh. Then Dundee and Thurso etc. brought to ruin because some are supposedly scarper there?!

Like Vietnam bomb and slaughter civilians, and never touch the Culprits and thoses needing to be sorted?!

[Roland]

We can't affords Hospital beds, let alone fully functioning Hospitals. Cutting Back constantly. Same as cut backs of the councils, the Police, or affordable housing.

We charge tenants £14 for an unused room... Not allowed to build council houses after Thatcher sold many off …. and kept the money.... the list is endless.

But we can give India - 3rd riches country in the world, £15 billion plus per year. Billions in oversea aid etc. YET Guided missiles and drones costing £millions is no problem. The long-range strike missile market alone will be worth $13.3 billion over the next 10 years, according to a new report.

Weaponry in the military has come a long way from the days of muskets and cannon. Smart weapons with guided deployment technology, lasers and precision enhancement are developed and purchased by organizations across the world -- and cost a fortune. Originally reported by The Economist, guided missiles technology is one of the most expensive sectors in smart weaponry. A single medium to long-range subsonic Tomahawk cruise missile costs roughly $1.5m, and 50kg air-to-ground Hellfire rockets cost an eye-watering $115,000 each. Another member of the family, a shoulder-rocket called the Javelin -- at $147,000 -- can be used to kill individual soldiers that are hiding in bolt-holes. Some cost eh to kill a fellow … or 100's of innocences. But we fire them off by the dozens, hundreds. But surely this is a little expensive when targeting poorly-armed guerrilla forces, as these weapons were often used for in Afghanistan? Syria will be times upon times more expensive.

This realization has hit the American forces. A number of smart designs are being developed, using cheaper materials and taking tips from old designs. The March deployment of the APKWS II (Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System) made by BAE Systems, is a perfect example. It is a smart version of a traditional 70mm rocket, but can strike with an accuracy of one meter due to a laser-seeking head that pinpoints a target and alters the missile's fins accordingly. The U.S. military must consider this a bargain at only $28,000 a shot. The U.S. Navy is also on board; upgrading a similar 70mm to create the Low-Cost Imaging Terminal Seeker (LCITS), which has already successfully completed trials. Developed for the sea rather than air, the LCITS uses heat signatures instead of laser technology. As operators are freed from the need to watch a target, several can be fired quickly -- useful if a ship is under attack by multiple forces.

However, pride of place goes to the Forward Firing Miniature Munition (F2M2, or Spike missile), developed by the California-based Naval Air Weapons Station. It uses a smart optical-guidance system which can lock on to objects or laser spots, and is powerful enough to destroy light targets. Steve Felix, the Spike Missile project manager, wanted to create a guided weapon using off-the-shelf materials, and the result was a 3kg device the size of a baguette -- a steal at just £5,000.

In the current economic climate, military organizations that want to advance their weaponry need to continue in this line of thought. In the face of slashed budgets, the military may enjoy its $1.5 million cruise missiles -- but far more could be achieved if the cost of smart weaponry is kept under control. Exchange one $1.5 million missile for a plethora of $20,000 models.

No wonder we love to go to war. Baracka Barmy stated, - it is on YouTube - that the U.S.A. need another 7 wars in 5 years.

We are doing everything we can to get the Argentinians to fight us ... no gave up yet by a long chalk. etc. etc. No profit in peace. No profit curing illnesses.

[Guest johnhunter]

We can't affords Hospital beds, let alone fully functioning Hospitals. Cutting Back constantly. Same as cut backs of the councils, the Police, or affordable housing.

We charge tenants £14 for an unused room... Not allowed to build council houses after Thatcher sold many off …. and kept the money.... the list is endless.

But we can give India - 3rd riches country in the world, £15 billion plus per year. Billions in oversea aid etc. YET Guided missiles and drones costing £millions is no problem. The long-range strike missile market alone will be worth $13.3 billion over the next 10 years, according to a new report.

Weaponry in the military has come a long way from the days of muskets and cannon. Smart weapons with guided deployment technology, lasers and precision enhancement are developed and purchased by organizations across the world -- and cost a fortune. Originally reported by The Economist, guided missiles technology is one of the most expensive sectors in smart weaponry. A single medium to long-range subsonic Tomahawk cruise missile costs roughly $1.5m, and 50kg air-to-ground Hellfire rockets cost an eye-watering $115,000 each. Another member of the family, a shoulder-rocket called the Javelin -- at $147,000 -- can be used to kill individual soldiers that are hiding in bolt-holes. Some cost eh to kill a fellow … or 100's of innocences. But we fire them off by the dozens, hundreds. But surely this is a little expensive when targeting poorly-armed guerrilla forces, as these weapons were often used for in Afghanistan? Syria will be times upon times more expensive.

This realization has hit the American forces. A number of smart designs are being developed, using cheaper materials and taking tips from old designs. The March deployment of the APKWS II (Advanced Precision Kill Weapons System) made by BAE Systems, is a perfect example. It is a smart version of a traditional 70mm rocket, but can strike with an accuracy of one meter due to a laser-seeking head that pinpoints a target and alters the missile's fins accordingly. The U.S. military must consider this a bargain at only $28,000 a shot. The U.S. Navy is also on board; upgrading a similar 70mm to create the Low-Cost Imaging Terminal Seeker (LCITS), which has already successfully completed trials. Developed for the sea rather than air, the LCITS uses heat signatures instead of laser technology. As operators are freed from the need to watch a target, several can be fired quickly -- useful if a ship is under attack by multiple forces.

However, pride of place goes to the Forward Firing Miniature Munition (F2M2, or Spike missile), developed by the California-based Naval Air Weapons Station. It uses a smart optical-guidance system which can lock on to objects or laser spots, and is powerful enough to destroy light targets. Steve Felix, the Spike Missile project manager, wanted to create a guided weapon using off-the-shelf materials, and the result was a 3kg device the size of a baguette -- a steal at just £5,000.

In the current economic climate, military organizations that want to advance their weaponry need to continue in this line of thought. In the face of slashed budgets, the military may enjoy its $1.5 million cruise missiles -- but far more could be achieved if the cost of smart weaponry is kept under control. Exchange one $1.5 million missile for a plethora of $20,000 models.

No wonder we love to go to war. Baracka Barmy stated, - it is on YouTube - that the U.S.A. need another 7 wars in 5 years.

We are doing everything we can to get the Argentinians to fight us ... no gave up yet by a long chalk. etc. etc. No profit in peace. No profit curing illnesses.

a lot of truth in your comments roland

[paddymac]

Two of the most logical posts I've read Roland involving the Syrian conflict, the government will quite happily broadcast all the positives through a biased media but as usual all the innocent victims that will be butchered in this bombing regime will never be mentioned.

[Walter swanston]

Do you guys not get it?

The SNP are to blame for the Forth Road bridge closing, it's a plot to cut Fife and Gordie Broon off from civilisation.

The SNP are to blame for the extinction of dinosaurs on Skye

The SNP are to blame for not approving what the Herald call strikes by Scottish jet fighters ( thought we voted no that would make them British fighters )

Surely it's all clear SNP. Baaaaad, that's really,really baaaad.

If you do not believe me just war this thread get shut down

[MIK]

the bombing of "IS" in Syria has got the vote to go ahead ...so with the license extended from Afghanistan and Irag we now have Syria.

 

first strikes oil fields...why? and dont tell me they are in isis control and stop the money chite...its all bul lsh&te

 

they bomb an empty field....because the real problem starts with the millions that have left and are marching through Europe demanding aslyum..yes demanding ????

 

and the stupid european courts are forcing us to give all to helping them organize and spread terror throughout Europe..???

 

blow up the tunnel and keep these Islands as christian as possible.

 

my rant over

Mick

[Kyleakin Lofts]

When I was younger, I was against war and for supporting refugees, the poor, the starving, etc. As I grew older I realised it wasn't as clear cut as I had previously thought and my views began to change. Now I am even older and have grown very cynical. I still do not want wars, but I am very against the waste of money in fighting them and the subsequent waste of money to support the survivors of our folly. That money could be better used to support our pensioners, I'll soon be one, our own poor and starving. Our charities attempt to raise funds for needy causes when our government should be supplying these funds.

[paddymac]

the bombing of "IS" in Syria has got the vote to go ahead ...so with the license extended from Afghanistan and Irag we now have Syria.

 

first strikes oil fields...why? and dont tell me they are in isis control and stop the money chite...its all bul lsh&te

 

they bomb an empty field....because the real problem starts with the millions that have left and are marching through Europe demanding aslyum..yes demanding ????

 

and the stupid european courts are forcing us to give all to helping them organize and spread terror throughout Europe..???

 

blow up the tunnel and keep these Islands as christian as possible.

 

my rant over

Mick

:emoticon-0137-clapping:

[Roland]

One will also conveniently forget that the IS was funded and set up Via Britain and the USA. Like when we and the USA told and backed the Marshlands to rebel against Saddam saying we would defend them.. He drained the marshes and annihilated them. We and the USA stood by. Mission accomplished.

 

Now we have George Bush admitting that it was the Americans that detonated and controlled the twin Towers. George Bush Snr made $27 million in the first 30 minutes. The only plane that left the USA that day was the one taking Bin Ladens family out AFTER meeting with George Bush Snr only 300 yards away.

 

Nasa now admits man has never gone to the moon.

 

 

Bin Ladin died of natural causes 7/8 years ago. Fact! Has been killed twice more by the USA... last time was when Barack Barma was way behind in the polls ... he went on to win a second term.

Al Queada wasn't invented till the Twin Towers. So of course no one had ever heard of them before then obviously

So we maime and slaughter innocence classed as no more than fodder..

 

Gadaffi plowed back the countries resources to the people. Best water system in the world. Free electric and gas. Oil dirt cheap. Free education at uni level. Borrowing for the poorer was interest free and very low %tage for business etc.

Till he followed Saddam and wanted to sale the oil by the Dinera - Gold. Meant the Dollar losing strength and the USA power of using paper money they didn't etc.

We have stolen £billins from Iraq. The USA $trillions. We own in one oil pocket behind the Falklands enough oil to supply the world for 200 years. That is a pittance of what we actually own... the USA vastly more. They GAVE us one lot for 10% of profits... 1000's of years worth.

[johnc]

i look forward to your posts about pigeons roland but when you start about the yanks blowing up their own towers you start getting fanatical stick to the pigeons mate its more interesting