VAGIN Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Can you give me your opinion on this questionWhen a bird wins 1st club, 1st fed, 1st section, 1st open in a big race.Does that mean that this bird can be advertised as winning four 1st. I also notice birds for sale mostly continental fanciers advertise this bird has won 10 prizes. What is a prize, 1st out of 100 birds winning £50 or 99th out 100 birds winning 50p, Or is it all just an advertising gimmick by somefeather merchants. Opinions Please
Guest Jamsie Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I WOULD SAY IT GETS A FIRST FOR EACH CATEGORY IT HAS COMPETED IN, SO YES I WOULD GIVE YOUR EXAMPLE 4 FIRSTS.PRIZES ARE A DIFFERENT THING ALTOGETHER AND ARE HIGHLIGHTED INNACURATELY BY THOSE YOU DESCRIBED AS FEATHER MERCHANTS.
greenbar Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 one race won,one win,unless your selling ,makes it look good,
TheHigg Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 if they advertised the doo as winning first open that should tell you it has won the club and section also imo thats all that is needed but as said before all those 1sts look better on paper
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 My pigeon red alert was 1st west section 1st club Now If I was selling this pigeon It would get advertised as one 1st not 2 1st's like some do
Ian McKay Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 My pigeon red alert was 1st west section 1st club Now If I was selling this pigeon It would get advertised as one 1st not 2 1st's like some do You wont get a job in marketing George LOL :emoticon-0138-thinking:
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 You wont get a job in marketing George LOL :emoticon-0138-thinking:Naw yer right to honest lol bt the pigeon has flew one race so one result
frank-123 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I pulled someone up on here for doing that claiming extra first prizes. Three firsts from one bird... first club first section first open. He went mad when i told the fanciers on here what he was up too. Conman of the highest order heard stories he still bad mouths me to this day. Not that I give a ....
demolition man Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I pulled someone up on here for doing that claiming extra first prizes. Three firsts from one bird... first club first section first open. He went mad when i told the fanciers on here what he was up too. Conman of the highest order heard stories he still bad mouths me to this day. Not that I give a .... Frank Out of interest how can you pull someone up for saying his bird was 1st club 1st section 1st open when it was? just interested
grdkeith Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Can you give me your opinion on this questionWhen a bird wins 1st club, 1st fed, 1st section, 1st open in a big race.Does that mean that this bird can be advertised as winning four 1st. I also notice birds for sale mostly continental fanciers advertise this bird has won 10 prizes. What is a prize, 1st out of 100 birds winning £50 or 99th out 100 birds winning 50p, Or is it all just an advertising gimmick by somefeather merchants. Opinions Please I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different races
alec guinness Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different races Same here.
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I pulled someone up on here for doing that claiming extra first prizes. Three firsts from one bird... first club first section first open. He went mad when i told the fanciers on here what he was up too. Conman of the highest order heard stories he still bad mouths me to this day. Not that I give a ....Is this a Lanarkshire man?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Is this a Lanarkshire man? :emoticon-0127-lipssealed:
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Only person your kidding is yourself a doo canny get more than one 1st for flying a single race
kingbilly 1 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different racesspot on mate
frank-123 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Frank Out of interest how can you pull someone up for saying his bird was 1st club 1st section 1st open when it was? just interested So when you know the guy one four first's in races and he claims on here he won seven. I didn't know how he managed to get to Seven until he corrected his post After I asked the question. To me and most scottish fanciers if the bird wins a race it counts as one not what other club it is duplicated into.
frank-123 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different racesCorrect just what I believe too.
moscow master Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 same at national level when people rant on about this person and that person has got good national winning doos yet they have never won a national only timing in them
alec guinness Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 same at national level when people rant on about this person and that person has got good national winning doos yet they have never won a national only timing in them Plenty of top top national fanciers have never won the national,most great/good national birds have scored and maybe won a section,silver and gold awards also these are champion national birds but again have not won a national. Ps takes a good/decent bird to even make the clock at 500/600miles these days.
just ask me Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 One stud when racing if it took the first 10 in a race would class it as 10 firsts I'm also led to believe they used to call first back to there loft a first
Guest stb- Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Can you give me your opinion on this questionWhen a bird wins 1st club, 1st fed, 1st section, 1st open in a big race.Does that mean that this bird can be advertised as winning four 1st. I also notice birds for sale mostly continental fanciers advertise this bird has won 10 prizes. What is a prize, 1st out of 100 birds winning £50 or 99th out 100 birds winning 50p, Or is it all just an advertising gimmick by somefeather merchants. Opinions PleaseNAW one race one win one times first nane of this selling propaganda P*** birds only been at 6 races but got 36 first what a load of kite , its only 6 x 1st end of
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Can you give me your opinion on this questionWhen a bird wins 1st club, 1st fed, 1st section, 1st open in a big race.Does that mean that this bird can be advertised as winning four 1st. I also notice birds for sale mostly continental fanciers advertise this bird has won 10 prizes. What is a prize, 1st out of 100 birds winning £50 or 99th out 100 birds winning 50p, Or is it all just an advertising gimmick by somefeather merchants. Opinions Please Like the rest of the Scots guys on here, one first only per race. The rest are purely gimmicks for sales and can be misleading. Given your example, if it is expressed as you have done there is no misrepresentation. If it is advertised as having won four firsts, which it can be, then it is misrepresentation of fact and is so done purely for sales. Continentals are super at advertising and ten prizes seems a good thing, but it is vague and could be a misrepresentation because the individual takes it to mean something different. A prize could be 1st Club,4th Federation, 18th Amalgamation, 70th Combine, 225th Open, 5 prizes from the one race. This sort of feat could be achieved 10 times in one season, thus giving 50 prizes and the YB's sold at exorbitant prices.
VMS Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different racesWould also agree with this.
peter pandy Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 May I add another scenario. A Fed is made up from clubs within that Fed however their is a Championship 3 bird club where the birds competing in the Fed race are duplicated into the Championship club. The fancier could be first in his Fed club and also first in his Championship club. Now is that 1 or 2 Firsts ?.
Guest stb- Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 May I add another scenario. A Fed is made up from clubs within that Fed however their is a Championship 3 bird club where the birds competing in the Fed race are duplicated into the Championship club. The fancier could be first in his Fed club and also first in his Championship club. Now is that 1 or 2 Firsts ?.1 race 1 first , no fairy stories lol
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