harky Posted October 4, 2014 Report Posted October 4, 2014 Who has the best of these pigeons, is anyone racing them succesfuly,
geordie1234 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Posted October 4, 2014 I heard Hardy kruger has crackers all joking aside I handled a sh.it load at macs loft...these doos are going to hit big time
harky Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Posted October 5, 2014 I heard Hardy kruger has crackers all joking aside I handled a sh.it load at macs loft...these doos are going to hit big timeSPRINTERS , MIDDLE OR LONG DISTANCE GEORDIE.
tiger Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 SPRINTERS , MIDDLE OR LONG DISTANCE GEORDIE. sprint to middle was told ?
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Who has the best of these pigeons, is anyone racing them succesfuly, try his brother Freddy Kruger
geordie1234 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Sprint to middle 100% They seem to be the in strain at the moment. .. Mac brought then in a year ago. .. I know a couple of Lanarkshire fanciers also brought a few in
DJWa Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 what price they selling for ive heard they are supposed to be a bit pricey
WulDon Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd National last year, 5426 birds... 678km
BLACK W F Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 I heard Hardy kruger has crackers all joking aside I handled a sh.it load at macs loft...these doos are going to hit big timethese doos are already doing the business told plenty about them 3 year ago and i know plenty doing well with them i have not had mine on the road yet but if they fly half as good as where i got them from i will be more than pleasedthey will go to 500mls no probs
sprint maestro09 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 Evans & cuthbert Billingham teesside have the best of these atb
just ask me Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 anyone got a link to hardys results what club does he race in
frank-123 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 He was in our hotel in Blackpool they doo men were like flies round a sh**. More foreign dung that when the north wind blows they will hit the deck. Get you self "Hardy" scottish doos.
William Reid Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 He was in our hotel in Blackpool they doo men were like flies round a sh**. More foreign dung that when the north wind blows they will hit the deck. Get you self "Hardy" scottish doos..
just ask me Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 What's his club results for the last year or so
moscow master Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 He was in our hotel in Blackpool they doo men were like flies round a sh**. More foreign dung that when the north wind blows they will hit the deck. Get you self "Hardy" scottish doos.Out of curiosity when was the national last won way a good old Scottish doo think in the last twenty years more have been won with foreign dung lol
frank-123 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 Out of curiosity when was the national last won way a good old Scottish doo think in the last twenty years more have been won with foreign dung lol I would rather have doos from Jock Alston, Davie Donaldson, John Hood, Jim Hannah Derek Hay.You can near on guarantee there birds will turn up on a tough day From over 500 -600 miles. Oh Aye Davie Elliot won Messac 2011
moscow master Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 I would rather have doos from Jock Alston, Davie Donaldson, John Hood, Jim Hannah Derek Hay.You can near on guarantee there birds will turn up on a tough day From over 500 -600 miles. Oh Aye Davie Elliot won Messac 2011What bloodlines are Davy Elliot ? Bricoux based I'm think could be wrong unless its hamish mc bricoux lol and am sure most of the others have foreign blood at some point running through them I might be wrong
geordie1234 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 Frank anyone looking at hardy kruger doos isny looking for 500 plus milers tho
frank-123 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 I thought kruger pigeons were distance doos sure his main pigeons were winning at 700km
glencameron Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 It is possible to view all his results and make up your own minds. Go to http://www.brieftaube.de/web/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=87&lang=de (If you’re brave and speak German, see Jumbo !!)Or http://www.brieftaube.de/web/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=87&lang=en His Regionalverband (Region) is 415His Reisevereinigung (club/fed is 04. Select all the results April to September Some of the results do claim National but it is an amalgamation of two/three Region. Decent birdage In his club/fed (RV) between 9-23 fanciers last year from 17 races he won 2 firsts. Heinz Ulrich whoever he is won 5 * 1stScheike Josef looks to be the better (my opinion) Small sample Reims 23 sent 738 RV Kz Ve Züchter PrZü Metallfußring Ja VWPMABCDAM Ankunft T U +/- met/min RV näPr Gewinn---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 ME 12 Heinz Ulrich 1. 09088.13.3223 1 V M 11:49:36 1 1593.688 100.0 24 2 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.13.0792 1 11:53:14 1586.790 99.59 4 2nd Race 22 sent 695 1 ME 15 Fröhlke & Fenger 1. 03353.12.0061 2 V 13:39:53 1 1227.285 100.0 2 2 ME 15 Fröhlke & Fenger 2. 03353.12.0099 1 V 13:43:45 1 1206.078 99.57 4 3 ME 12 Nass Willi 1. 09088.12.2311 2 V 13:43:58 1204.961 99.14 14 4 ME 15 Fröhlke & Fenger 3. 03353.13.0040 2 13:44:11 1 1203.747 98.71 5 5 ME 15 Fröhlke & Fenger 4. 03353.12.0125 1 V 13:45:23 1 1197.338 98.28 13 6 ME 07 Köllges Reiner 1. 04997.13.0262 2 13:41:13 1 1196.447 97.84 23 7 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.13.0767 1 13:49:51 1195.932 97.41 8 8 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 2. 07274.12.0646 2 V 3 13:49:53 1195.759 96.98 9 3rd Race 23 members send 701 RV Kz Ve Züchter PrZü Metallfußring Ja VWPMABCDAM Ankunft T U +/- met/min RV näPr Gewinn---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 ME 12 Wiegert Alfred 1. 09088.13.3256 1 10:05:25 1873.048 100.0 74 2 ME 10 Fuss Friedel 1. 07743.13.0476W 1 10:00:58 1 1853.386 99.57 3 3 ME 10 Fuss Friedel 2. 07743.11.0317 2 V 10:01:01 1 1852.859 99.15 6 4 ME 06 Steinhauer T. u. R. 1. 00904.12.0359 2 10:01:10 1828.416 98.72 29 5 ME 12 Nass Willi 1. 09088.13.3065 2 P 10:11:05 1775.377 98.29 68 6 ME 10 Fuss Friedel 3. 07743.10.0002 1 10:09:11 1 1770.711 97.86 9 7 ME 12 Heinz Ulrich 1. 09088.08.1494W 2 10:11:58 1 1768.847 97.44 12 8 ME 15 Fröhlke & Fenger 1. 03353.12.0099 2 V 10:12:58 1 1757.470 97.01 86 9 ME 10 Fuss Friedel 4. 07743.13.0537 2 10:10:54 1 1754.361 96.58 10 10 ME 10 Fuss Friedel 5. 07743.13.0414 2 10:10:56 1 1754.047 96.15 53 11 ME 07 Köllges Reiner 1. 04997.13.0299 3 V P 10:10:29 1 1752.609 95.73 35 12 ME 12 Heinz Ulrich 2. 09088.13.3149 2 10:14:09 1 1748.432 95.30 14 13 ME 13 Meurer + Sohn 1. 03493.10.0156 1 10:10:54 1747.063 94.87 26 14 ME 12 Heinz Ulrich 3. 09088.10.0299W 3 V 10:14:19 1 1746.893 94.44 49 15 ME 13 Leuchten-Schmitz 1. 03493.09.0026W 2 V 10:11:12 2 1744.936 94.02 43 16 ME 06 Dohmen H.-Günter 1. 07274.12.0839 3 V 10:16:38 1744.764 93.59 25 17 ME 06 Scheike Josef 1. 07274.10.0511 2 10:17:17 1739.319 93.16 18 18 ME 06 Scheike Josef 2. 07274.13.0816 2 P 10:17:36 1736.459 92.74 20 19 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.13.1183 2 10:18:17 1733.114 92.31 31 4th race 23 sent 682 RV Kz Ve Züchter PrZü Metallfußring Ja VWPMABCDAM Ankunft T U +/- met/min RV näPr Gewinn---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 ME 12 Heinz Ulrich 1. 09088.13.3143W 4 V P 12:52:55 1 1239.992 100.0 21 2 ME 11 Abts & Sohn 1. 08886.13.0014 2 V P 12:48:21 1 1237.601 99.56 73 3 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.12.0921 3 12:57:16 -1 1236.770 99.12 9 4 ME 06 Scheike Josef 1. 07274.11.0612 1 12:58:11 1231.035 98.68 10 5th race 22 sent 624 . Now is whole area race RV 22 sent 624Reg V 311 sent 8484 RV RV FG RgGr RegV Kz Ve Züchter PrZü Metallfußring Ja VWPMABCAM Ankunft T U +/- met/min näPr RV Bund RgGr RegV Gewinn--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 30 91 107 ME 07 Köllges Reiner 1. 01013.10.0051W 4 V M 12:50:30 1 1637.437 6 100.0 98.02 94.72 96.25 2 32 99 115 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.12.0646 4 V M C 12:57:00 1636.852 11 99.52 97.88 94.25 95.97 Reg V 115th2 32 99 115 ME 06 Krüger Hardy+Vater 1. 07274.12.0646 4 V M C 12:57:00 1636.852 330 99.52 97.88 94.25 95.97
andy Burgess Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.premierstud.com/kruger.html just looking for a link for JAM , and see theres 1 up
frank-123 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 Karl Broeckx , Van de rhee, Roland Janssen.... etc
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 What bloodlines are Davy Elliot ? Bricoux based I'm think could be wrong unless its hamish mc bricoux lol and am sure most of the others have foreign blood at some point running through them I might be wrong Foreign blood is debatable! When did Bricoux die? There are no Bricoux available nowadays. Purity is a farce. I would think, from the very little knowledge of pigeon history that I have, that most of the best UK bloodlines originated from the continent and Belgium in particular, but years of breeding in the UK has nullified the continental origins. Whenever a pigeon entered Bussheart's loft it became a Bussheart. These UK pigeons became whatever loft they were in at the time. The war decimated the continental stock and some re-stocking occurred with pigeons from the UK. The continentals are expert at advertising their pigeons and promoting sales whereas the UK fanciers are more intent on talking down the achievements of their pigeons looking only at first past the post, unlike the continentals, instead of achievements of individual pigeons. We are also very adept at buying continental pigeons instead of pigeons from our own country or area. I am not disputing the continental influence within the UK, but I am agreeing, to some extent, with the principle of good Scottish doos.
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 I thought kruger pigeons were distance doos sure his main pigeons were winning at 700km 700Km is 420 miles, not distance doos as far as I'm concerned. At best middle distance.
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