Glasgow Fed GONE MAD..!!

[HOMER49]

it was only when i started to race with the glasgow fed that my birds were comming from the south in bo,ness and i tryed every thing to get that without sucess even now they come from the s/s/e to my new loft loc thats only the drag thats holding them from comming right out of fife to me( due east) the wind will determine where the birds come from i do agree that in the last 4/5 years there has been more east in the wind than we used to get  but the prevailing wind is still west

 

Hi

Interesting statement for was talking to 2 South Lanarkshire members today

and they both say when SL go them selfs the birds come straighter when they

go with Glasgow they come out the north

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

Frank,

 

It is niave to think there is no outside eliments involved here.You are spot on we make our mind up on how we keep and train our pigeons,and to that end some will be better at this than others.

 

However though some fly the west there lofts or birds are every bit as good as though who fly in any direction,yet it would appear there losses are greater.

 

Looking for a way to race that inproves our returns, so the guys can build a team.It goes without saying some fanciers are better than others,however no one seems to be exempt from disasters these days

 

rab your 100% again your good at this LOL look at jonseys own results from a shorter but further east(right on the coast) point and he wants to move further west/central that just doesnt make sence to me trying to get any liberation point without puting the birds at greater risk of preditors/hills etc is very hard to start with and i have asked him a few times where he wants to go/liberate but no ans. a fed cant just say ok we will go here or there they have to get suitable liberation points as i said if its not broken dont try and fix it

[Fair Play]

Having just restarted and flying East have not seen anything like the results into the West when we raced West coast, now a club winner does not feature in the Fed result or rarely surely they are not all bad birds.As to the losses there have been a multitude of explainations but no positive answer each has own pet "excuse" maybe someday someone give us the Correct answer not "suppostitions"

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Hi

Interesting statement for was talking to 2 South Lanarkshire members today

and they both say when SL go them selfs the birds come straighter when they

go with Glasgow they come out the north

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

that might well be the case alex  i cant say i can only say what happened to me and it is a fact that any org. racing into the one area on its own is likly to get the bird comming from a better line but finances dictate we must joint convoy and as far as i have seen the no,s of birds between the 2 feds are about equal and with all due respect s/l is in an god awfull place to get birds come direct out the south to them

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

When you are flying sometimes less than 60 miles across east to west or west to east of the country, you will clash big time with pigeons flying north and south.

 

You can argue this is supposition,but so was the suggestion that Elvis works in Tesco and we all know he is on night shift at the Cumbernauld branch.so lets no discount anything.

 

Lol

 

Keep talking but do so for the good of our pigeons.

[Guest frank dooman]

Having just restarted and flying East have not seen anything like the results into the West when we raced West coast, now a club winner does not feature in the Fed result or rarely surely they are not all bad birds.As to the losses there have been a multitude of explainations but no positive answer each has own pet "excuse" maybe someday someone give us the Correct answer not "suppostitions"

 

i sympthise with you i believe that the further west your loft is the worst you are off but return wise i still think the central/east route is the best the reason there has been no ans. is no one has the ans. no it does not offer yous the best overfly but i thought yous boys in your area did well even in strong west winds this year

[Guest frank dooman]

When you are flying sometimes less than 60 miles across east to west or west to east of the country, you will clash big time with pigeons flying north and south.

 

You can argue this is supposition,but so was the suggestion that Elvis works in Tesco and we all know he is on night shift at the Cumbernauld branch.so lets no discount anything.

 

Lol

 

Keep talking but do so for the good of our pigeons.

 

i dont think we have the chance to clash untill we are past ripon who is north of us that early on rab i have controled for a few years and dont know of any that early on in the season and i thought elvis was in the falkirk store

[Guest frank dooman]

time for my bed now rab nice talking to you :B :B

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

As long as we both agree he is alive and well Falkirk will do me mate.Frank you have a good point but its not just short races that are disasters now a days.

 

Love to stay and sort things with you mate,got a feeling it would not takes us long to put things to right.We could always give the fanciers who dare disagree a couple free tickets to see ELVIS

 

Nite

[Roland]

Only fools / gullible really try to convince others WIND makes no difference. Simple equation and realism that.... Oh O.K. and Brain Dead' ones also lol  ;D

[HOMER49]

 

that might well be the case alex  i cant say i can only say what happened to me and it is a fact that any org. racing into the one area on its own is likly to get the bird comming from a better line but finances dictate we must joint convoy and as far as i have seen the no,s of birds between the 2 feds are about equal and with all due respect s/l is in an god awfull place to get birds come direct out the south to them

 

Hi Frank

You maybe misunderstood me

I never said out the south I said straighter

I live in SL but in Lanarkshire Fed  live only 2 houses

from W Johnston and our birds never come out the south

not even in 2008 when Lanarkshire went down the west route

Cheers

Homer 49

 

 

[johno]

funny how losses are always put down to bad pigeons, wrong liberation point, wrong kind of rain, wrong wind, wrong transport, wrong kind of sun, moon in the sky, telephone masts, radar outposts, liberated at wrong time, pigeons not watered, clashing etc etc etc. is it not just as likely to be poor management, poor effort, poor knowledge, poor doomen. if i send 20 pigeons to a race and get 4 home and all around me get 16 or more home the problem lies with me. for at least ten years now health problems have decimated the pigeon racing game. the amount of fanciers suffering due to this has increased year on year. we as a group have paid no heid to this. we march on blindly and attempt what would be seen in horse racing, greyhound racing, or any other athletic competition, as the impossible. competing with unhealthy competitors. year on year birds go down like snow off a dyke on a warm day. due to lack of patience and lack of trying to understand this problem there is hardly a loft in the uk that is free enough of debilitating disease to allow competition at a reasonable level.

[hotrod]

funny how losses are always put down to bad pigeons, wrong liberation point, wrong kind of rain, wrong wind, wrong transport, wrong kind of sun, moon in the sky, telephone masts, radar outposts, liberated at wrong time, pigeons not watered, clashing etc etc etc. is it not just as likely to be poor management, poor effort, poor knowledge, poor doomen. if i send 20 pigeons to a race and get 4 home and all around me get 16 or more home the problem lies with me. for at least ten years now health problems have decimated the pigeon racing game. the amount of fanciers suffering due to this has increased year on year. we as a group have paid no heid to this. we march on blindly and attempt what would be seen in horse racing, greyhound racing, or any other athletic competition, as the impossible. competing with unhealthy competitors. year on year birds go down like snow off a dyke on a warm day. due to lack of patience and lack of trying to understand this problem there is hardly a loft in the uk that is free enough of debilitating disease to allow competition at a reasonable level.

 

your 100% correct johno and the club jonesy is in have had [roblems for a few years now ,in fact a few years ago in a y/b race the clydebankn club had 90-95% returns on the day and the alexandria club had  none home on the day they thought their birds werent libberated and im sure they phoned gordon and ask him to check the transporter ,then they think the weather c losed in and the birds could not get home ,but im further west than them and me and my pal matt luke had great returns ,so this leads me to say yes you are maybeb right about the health issue.

[hotrod]

 

Hi Frank

You maybe misunderstood me

I never said out the south I said straighter

I live in SL but in Lanarkshire Fed  live only 2 houses

from W Johnston and our birds never come out the south

not even in 2008 when Lanarkshire went down the west route

Cheers

Homer 49

 

hi alec do you train oot the south or do you go east ? and i know your spot on with this statement as my pal in the gow says exactly the same ,but the wind has a say as well which way the birds home ,if its right on the nose they will come straight (apart from hills and obsticles) as a die

 

 

[fastblack]

 

You are obvioulsy speaking to memebers i dont know.. every memeber ive spoke to wants to race in a more direct line..

 

i dont like training ybs from the east bcos thats the way they will come most time cos uve put it in there heads as babies so will agree with jonsey on this 1

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

 

i dont like training ybs from the east bcos thats the way they will come most time cos uve put it in there heads as babies so will agree with jonsey on this 1

 

Wouild agree with this

[fastblack]

 

Wouild agree with this

 

does c/nauld still do the new year show ???

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Sorry mate no ,was just discussing this with a couple of guys at bonnybridge.They were most enjoyable and went down well with fanciers from all over.

 

Cumbernauld has not been in existance for a number of years now

 

Rab Smith

[Guest spin cycle]

what sort of distance is berwick / dunbar into the fed ?

[hotrod]

75/85 miles from dunbar im not sure about berwick prob about 90/95 miles

[Guest spin cycle]

75/85 miles from dunbar im not sure about berwick prob about 90/95 miles

 

at least its a reasonable distance...40% ish of our race prog. is sleaford....which to me is a 57 mile waste of time (dizzy)....i'd love berwick / dunbar every week(evil)(evil)....best of luck to you

[hotrod]

 

at least its a reasonable distance...40% ish of our race prog. is sleaford....which to me is a 57 mile waste of time (dizzy)....i'd love berwick / dunbar every week(evil)(evil)....best of luck to you

 

thank mate as it is at the moment we have 3 races at 65 miles then 2 at 90 miles then 1 at 108 miles then around 160 then 190 for y/bs  i am happy gettin them out to 108 if i can then let them mature

[Guest frank dooman]

 

i dont like training ybs from the east bcos thats the way they will come most time cos uve put it in there heads as babies so will agree with jonsey on this 1

 

so where would you train/race from for the 1st 2/3 races? sitting looking at the map now and other than going down the west i dont know of any direct south liberating points

[fastblack]

 

so where would you train/race from for the 1st 2/3 races? sitting looking at the map now and other than going down the west i dont know of any direct south liberating points

 

peebles suits me just fine sometimes perth

[Guest frank dooman]

 

peebles suits me just fine sometimes perth

 

Is that for training or a race?peebles perth?????