Glasgow Fed GONE MAD..!!

[Fair Play]

That would be dropped oot a helicopter i take it  ;D ;D ;D

[Novice]

it was only when i started to race with the glasgow fed that my birds were comming from the south in bo,ness and i tryed every thing to get that without sucess even now they come from the s/s/e to my new loft loc thats only the drag thats holding them from comming right out of fife to me( due east) the wind will determine where the birds come from i do agree that in the last 4/5 years there has been more east in the wind than we used to get  but the prevailing wind is still west

 

It was strongly west this season at the National races was it not---up to 20 mph some races

 

 

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

We can discuss and try and  make the best decisions possible for our birds, however more than ever we will need a degree of luck in order to reduce our losses in the coming season.

 

Would argue fundemental changes to the way in which we race when it comes to days of the week.

 

It matters a jot weather we clash with NEHU in north east England, or the birds of Lancashire in north west England

 

This is the main arguement, it matter a jot who we clash with, the point is we are clashing,and it will take fundamental change to stop this.

 

Happy days

[hotrod]

I get first drop..?? Ooooft.. ill buy you a map for Christmas..

 

Overfly.. first drop etc.. couldnt bother me less..

 

All i want is to race doos and for everyone in the club to race doos.. i just dont think it benefits myself and other club memebers to race from where we do..

 

i can see where you live from my bedroom window and thats the direction my birds come from on a saturday and theres been plenty here when the birds  come and can verify this .

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Thats another good point.. if we race east to west and every other fed are racing south/north its inevitable we clash at some point..

[hotrod]

We can discuss and try and  make the best decisions possible for our birds, however more than ever we will need a degree of luck in order to reduce our losses in the coming season.

 

Would argue fundemental changes to the way in which we race when it comes to days of the week.

 

It matters a jot weather we clash with NEHU in north east England, or the birds of Lancashire in north west England

 

This is the main arguement, it matter a jot who we clash with, the point is we are clashing,and it will take fundamental change to stop this.

 

Happy days

i agree 100% rab but racing down the west wont change it . yes maybe race on a friday or sunday ill try anything

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

jonsey have your results / returns changed over the last 4/5 years that makes you want to go a different route or is it something else ?

[hotrod]

jonsey have your results / returns changed over the last 4/5 years that makes you want to go a different route or is it something else ?

 

frank he raced three times from cockenzie without losing a single bird

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

i agree 100% rab but racing down the west wont change it . yes maybe race on a friday or sunday ill try anything

 

 

Just to make it clear.. im not wanting to revert to the West like the old days.. i just think we would benefit from racing more down the middle of the country..

 

At the end of the day im a proud Alexandria and Glasgow Fed memeber, and ill support both always. Whatever the members decide will do for me.. Im only expressing an opinion.. i just want whats best for all of us..

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

We can discuss and try and  make the best decisions possible for our birds, however more than ever we will need a degree of luck in order to reduce our losses in the coming season.

 

Would argue fundemental changes to the way in which we race when it comes to days of the week.

 

It matters a jot weather we clash with NEHU in north east England, or the birds of Lancashire in north west England

 

This is the main arguement, it matter a jot who we clash with, the point is we are clashing,and it will take fundamental change to stop this.

 

Happy days

 

rab 100% we have raced the first 3/4 y/b races on a frid we also race on wed and as far as iam concerned we have had much better races but the time we all need to wory about is when we reach say ripon area then some of the north roadery are above us at close range lets face it thats when we experience our most losses but unfortunaly our sport is a sat/sun sport with the working man so cant realy be changed too much and money does come in to it

 

[Guest frank dooman]

 

frank he raced three times from cockenzie without losing a single bird

 

yes but what about the other years and is it just y/birds or do you have a prob with old aswell jonsey?

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

I agree but think we all want whats best for returns.If losses of young birds continue it will no matter if your shortist flyer of have a big overfly.

 

This is not change for change sake.bit of a Liberal myself so will site on the fence and would go right down the middle.However after the first few races or at the 100 miles stage i would race on Fridays or Sundays.

 

With the amount of birds in the sky on a Saturday,we should use the nut and Basket on a Saturday.For a sunday anytime race, or Monday with a teatime conclusion where possible,when weather dictates

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

 

yes but what about the other years and is it just y/birds or do you have a prob with old aswell jonsey?

 

This was my first year back in the doos from 2000 or 2001 (roughly i think)..

 

I had decent returns.. doos were well trained up to 50 or so miles..

 

Cockenzie 1 11/11

Cockenzie 2 14/14

Cockenzie 3 21/21

St. Boswells 9/18

Otterburn 4/4

 

Just as a club.. i think we could have been better. This maybe the doos..?? I dont know.. Just dont know if racing form the east benefits the doos later on i life..

 

[Guest frank dooman]

i lived and raced in bo,ness for over 14 years and training can be a problem you have the hills running from ratho right down over surtra untill you get to st boswells kelso coldstream so its only the places that you can find a correct place to liberate a convoy of birds  ( remember a convoy not a basket or 2 from the boot of your car) so you either go to the west or east of the hills so do you want to go west if so where?????????

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Hills, hawks, tv wires etc are all part and parcel of racing the doos.. they cant be avoided..

 

When the doos cross the border, we hope they start headin west asap... so why not race in a line where we think they fly..??

 

 

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

This has been a good discusion,one which should be continued over the coming days and weeks.

 

However lads lets not loss sight of the fact we do so for the good of our sport and, all our benifit.

[Guest frank dooman]

 

This was my first year back in the doos from 2000 or 2001 (roughly i think)..

 

I had decent returns.. doos were well trained up to 50 or so miles..

 

Cockenzie 1 11/11

Cockenzie 2 14/14

Cockenzie 3 21/21

St. Boswells 9/18

Otterburn 4/4

 

Just as a club.. i think we could have been better. This maybe the doos..?? I dont know.. Just dont know if racing form the east benefits the doos later on i life..

 

sory i cant see your reasoning here jonsey cockenzie is east of st boswells you had 100% returns then when you go further west/central you start to loose birds and yet your thread is to go from where you are starting to lose birds its fact that the further you put the birds out the more chance of loosing more it looks like to me its about the old nuget where some get the best overfly

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

That is exactly my point.. its once we go furher that the doos go down.. which leads me to think the initial training/scholling of the birds is wrong..

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

That is exactly my point.. its once we go furher that the doos go down.. which leads me to think the initial training/scholling of the birds is wrong..

 

Have to say you got a good point there mate

[Guest frank dooman]

That is exactly my point.. its once we go furher that the doos go down.. which leads me to think the initial training/scholling of the birds is wrong..

 

iam sory i have disagree with you there some birds just arent good enough i like to think that if my birds get to the north of england they get home from where ever they are if not they are no good to me and will have to get better birds or change the way  i look after them or both

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

The education we give our young birds is all importent,thus it my be argued if we are making mistakes with this we may be paying a terrible price.

 

Each to there own but there may just be something in this.

 

I do however take you point about poor quality of pigeons.

[Guest frank dooman]

 

Have to say you got a good point there mate

 

rab i have to say that all of us dont want to think its us or our bad doos or both its much easier to blame someone else when our birds go down yes i know what they have to go through but it allways seems to be the same fanciers that have biggar looses than others and its allways someone else that caused it lets look in before we blame from the out side ive raced with glasgow for the last 5 years and mix with allot of them i dont hear the most of them complaining the boys from the west know that there losses are greater than those from the west thats life get on with it with the right birds and systems

[Guest frank dooman]

this arguement goes on year in year out with lots of feds but the one thing that gets to me is the ones who put thease things up and maybe get it then dont send to any of the races, its about overfly thats all and as the saying goes if its not broken dont try and sort it

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Frank,

 

It is niave to think there is no outside eliments involved here.You are spot on we make our mind up on how we keep and train our pigeons,and to that end some will be better at this than others.

 

However though some fly the west there lofts or birds are every bit as good as though who fly in any direction,yet it would appear there losses are greater.

 

Looking for a way to race that inproves our returns, so the guys can build a team.It goes without saying some fanciers are better than others,however no one seems to be exempt from disasters these days

[Guest bobbyg]

We had 18 races in 2009 of which the west section topped the fed in 13 of them