gulkie Posted November 16, 2013 Report Posted November 16, 2013 I believe there are some fanciers who are paired up as I write thisIs there a reason why they pair up so early do they benefit in some Way ,they seem to putting the birds together earlier and earlier everyYear ,can someone tell me why???? :emoticon-0138-thinking:
MIK Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 only reason i can think off is natural darkness youngsters. but alot of work ahead in the early months, and sore on the pocket Mick
airdrie2 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 2014 life rings issued too early some tail end of december. youngsters would be natural darkness, also trained with old birds by time yb racing starts would be like yearlings i think rings shouldnt bee issued till 7th jan 2014 then you would be rining 2014 y/bs as there ring states
Tony C Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Some peeps would like to get as many youngsters out of their stock to put on the darkness. The earlier you pair the more rounds you'll get for this. IMO it's a waste of time, money & energy, 9 times out of 10 the later youngsters beat these early bred youngsters.
KMCK Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 January will do fine for pairing up, shu ring won't be in Ayrshire until end of December so there is no rush plus it's to bloody cold to try and rear young birds up here
greenlands Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 January for me,one of the problems IMO breeding early young is not being able to get them out if the weather goes tits up for a few week,I don't have an aviary so they will be locked up for that time.Like mine out from the day they are put through to their own section.
Bryngwynt Lofts Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Totally agree rings come out to early and people ring late Dec bred youngsters with 2014 rings.They are a lot more maturer than birds bred later in the season.Late Jan will do me fine or just after Blackpool.
sammy Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 2014 life rings issued too early some tail end of december. youngsters would be natural darkness, also trained with old birds by time yb racing starts would be like yearlings i think rings shouldnt bee issued till 7th jan 2014 then you would be rining 2014 y/bs as there ring states rings should not be issued untill at least 30th march and by the time young birds are weaned and seperated the sparra hen will be down on eggs and so will percy
walterboswell59 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 my stock birds are paired last week nov 1st week dec depending on weather the reason for this is i dont do darkness and the birds are almost or through the moult naturalsecond i want as many out the stock birds as pos and i dont want my to rear and race and third i want to vaccinate all birds in loft old and young the last week in march
walterboswell59 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 my stock birds are paired last week nov 1st week dec depending on weather the reason for this is i dont do darkness and the birds are almost or through the moult naturalsecond i want as many out the stock birds as pos and i dont want my to rear and race and third i want to vaccinate all birds in loft old and young the last week in marchps i should have added there paired for the youngsters to be 7 days old on the 3 rd of jan when the shu issues the new rings
geordie1234 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I'll pair up early prob boxing day
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 racers will be paired in mid February,stock in January after Blackpool
airdrie2 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 ps i should have added there paired for the youngsters to be 7 days old on the 3 rd of jan when the shu issues the new rings2013 hatched yongsters then walter
walterboswell59 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 2013 hatched yongsters then walter correct charlie but 2014 rung lol
geordie1234 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I canny wait to pair up if my new loft was to be built earlier then I'd follow wattie with my stockies
TheHigg Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I canny wait to pair up if my new loft was to be built earlier then I'd follow wattie with my stockiesyou could doo a lot worse than follow that man geo
geordie1234 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 you could doo a lot worse than follow that man geoToo true mate
Wiley Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I've tried pairing early, but what I've found the early breds cannot beat the May early June hatched youngsters when the combines come round.
peter pandy Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Will pair up on the full moon in March and leave the UNnaturals to their own devices.
geordie1234 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I've tried pairing early, but what I've found the early breds cannot beat the May early June hatched youngsters when the combines come round.Derek Hay said something similar the other week about breeding later gets better results.. maybe something to look into plus easier on the pocket
T_T Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Depends on how many pigeons you have. Myself I only have 6pr of stock birds so need to pair that little bit earlier. If I had plenty of birds, March would be my preferred time for breeding.
walterboswell59 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 every one to there own but im not out to win youngbird races if they win its a bonus im giving my yb all the time i can rangeing and training before yb racing starts and ive found its the later youngsters that get youngbird sickness worse than there earlier bred loft m8s
Guest Owen Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I will breed some early for the people who have asked me for them but I will take my own from the later ones. I have never found that it is an advantage to breed early and I find it a disadvantage to have youngsters in need of work before I am ready for it. A lot of the people around here like to have their youngsters flying for hours on end but I think it does more harm than good. When my youngsters start to range at 10/12 weeks I get them up the road and I don't want it to clash with my old bird training and racing. As far as results are concerned I usually win more races than the people with older youngsters so I see no point in it at all.
eastcoaster Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 every one to there own but im not out to win youngbird races if they win its a bonus im giving my yb all the time i can rangeing and training before yb racing starts and ive found its the later youngsters that get youngbird sickness worse than there earlier bred loft m8sWalter , if your pairing up that early when if at all do you start treating for worms/cocci/paratyphus ? Surely they will still be in the moult at that time ,
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