The 6 Feds Idea On Snfc/snrpc Thread

[Delboy]

its a great idea but personaly I would only want people in the races who are in the west section for national racing so no Solway or nw fed for me

 

Definately 100 % correct:emoticon-0167-beer:

[sammy]

its a great idea but personaly I would only want people in the races who are in the west section for national racing so no Solway or nw fed for me

its not that when you fly against them in national races ,a lot of work to be done on this and think it best left to FED OFFICIALS to meet and discuss then bring it back to there AGMs

[hotrod]

Think the main thing just now is to see who are up for joint convoying , then sort out the logistical stuff out later ie, baskets/crates etc. race controller , all that stuff could be sorted out easily enough .with goodwill of the usual small group of hard workers each fed has . I'm dead against competing with overseas national racing , for me it would be for inland races over or approx 200 miles to the coast and one or two young bird races , so maybe. 5/6 races a year in total .

[Walter swanston]

What's your problem with the Solway,I might have enough trouble selling this idea at our AGM without our efforts being undermined by fanciers from outside our area,I am sorry to say this and I apologise in advance if I offend but there are doubters in the Solway who would be overjoyed with this sort of ammunition.

[mazzie]

Am in the midland fed and I would go but would say for old birds aswell one big open from stafford

Or Worcester and if a letter was put into the midland fed to join the Amal it's up to the members to decide not the president

[Delboy]

What's your problem with the Solway,I might have enough trouble selling this idea at our AGM without our efforts being undermined by fanciers from outside our area,I am sorry to say this and I apologise in advance if I offend but there are doubters in the Solway who would be overjoyed with this sort of ammunition.

 

Walter, why dont you compete against the Lancashire combine ??? Its the exact same thing is it not ?

[blue pied]

joint convoying from 250+ with a open race from the coast and another about 300 mile mark then a yb open?

[dal2]

Walter, why dont you compete against the Lancashire combine ??? Its the exact same thing is it not ?

Walter once threw a stone out his front garden and it hit somebody in LAnarkshire!!!!LOL

 

Its falling to bits already? Maybe there could be a quarter national???

[Delboy]

I think its a great idea the west section feds forming an Amalgamation again but heres a few obstacles the delegates from each fed have to sort out before we start.1. What distances do we use, SHU or RPRA ? 2. What ruling body governs the race ? 3.What route do we fly, east or west. Remember every fed has an equal say and 3 of the 5 feds involved fly the east route at the moment, so no big fed deciding this and that? 4. What transporters are used? 5.How do we get all the feds to agree with the appropriate Amal race programmes ? Everything above is easily sorted if everyone plays the game and sings off the same hymn sheet ...

[Delboy]

Walter once threw a stone out his front garden and it hit somebody in LAnarkshire!!!!LOL

 

Its falling to bits already? Maybe there could be a quarter national???

 

Its not any sort of national Stevie, its a west section Amalgamation, which we had before.The Solway can form one with the Cumbrian and Lancashire boys, yer just a stones throw from them :P

[hotrod]

I think its a great idea the west section feds forming an Amalgamation again but heres a few obstacles the delegates from each fed have to sort out before we start.1. What distances do we use, SHU or RPRA ? 2. What ruling body governs the race ? 3.What route do we fly, east or west. Remember every fed has an equal say and 3 of the 5 feds involved fly the east route at the moment, so no big fed deciding this and that? 4. What transporters are used? 5.How do we get all the feds to agree with the appropriate Amal race programmes ? Everything above is easily sorted if everyone plays the game and sings off the same hymn sheet ...

I think John was getting this up and running just for convoying to start with , then we can see what happens after that del , we only need measurements if we re acing against each other . And as you say it only works if all have the same race program or if its similar then each could tweak there's a bit to match up . For me I would take solway but only for convoying.

[Delboy]

I would take anyone for convoying too Stu, makes economical sense

[dms5686]

I wouldnt convoy them it changes the nature of the race

[Delboy]

I wouldnt convoy them it changes the nature of the race

 

Fair point, maybe your right

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Walter once threw a stone out his front garden and it hit somebody in LAnarkshire!!!!LOL

 

Its falling to bits already? Maybe there could be a quarter national???

 

This is always the problem. Just my back yard please, don't want any other big boys in here.

Wish pigeon fanciers would think about the pigeons.

[DJWa]

This is always the problem. Just my back yard please, don't want any other big boys in here.

Wish pigeon fanciers would think about the pigeons.

 

correct andy

I wonder how the Lanarkshire boys would feel if all the other feds got together and left them out the proposed amal

is it because they think Solway would scoop up the major prizes by being first drop

 

well guess what, if they don't include Solway they are 1st drop

mmmm the mind boggles

[geordie1234]

Let's make this very clear....Nothing has been decided first and foremost. ..secondly no amal no combine has been talked about this is purely for convoying reasons ONLY

 

So everyone can put their hypothetical dummies back in their gob

[DJWa]

Let's make this very clear....Nothing has been decided first and foremost. ..secondly no amal no combine has been talked about this is purely for convoying reasons ONLY

 

So everyone can put their hypothetical dummies back in their gob

 

read post 68 George

john says that he will be looking into possible joint convoying

and into the possibility of forming an amal

[geordie1234]

read post 68 George

john says that he will be looking into possible joint convoying

and into the possibility of forming an amal

Yes in the years down the line IF we even managed to get the joint convoying

 

 

Now lets make another thing clear this is not Lanarkshire's gig if this gets up and running we will all be equally entitled to make decisions

 

Lanarkshire at this point are the one's who have made the first step towards a positive future....this does not mean we the Lanarkshire are calling the shots

 

Now I cannot see why it matter's to your good self because your in aberdeen so your defo no getting in lol

[WulDon]

I couldnae tell ye blucock, I’ve only ever seen or heard of the idea on here.

 

If it was a serious proposition and the NW fed was eligible to partake, the current office bearers are Scott Morrison(scottym7), Martin Conlin(aye ready), James Jack and myself. I’m assuming one or all of us would need to be made clear on what exactly was on the table to present to the NW fed members at the AGM to see if they were keen on the idea.

 

The Northwest fed was once part of the Central and East of Scotland Amal. I can’t speak for the body of the membership but looking to the future, if this type of amalgamation was to become the reality, I personally think it makes a lot of sense geographically for the Northwest fed to be involved with the feds mentioned at the start of the thread.

 

It would all depend on what is being proposed, whether it be joint convoying in the second half of the old bird programme, one young bird race, a yearling derby etc etc.

 

 

Central & East of Scotland Amalgamation, was a great organisation to fly in... over 10,000 birds in some races! hardly lost a pigeon in races ranging from 280 - 386 miles into Dundee

 

But as soon as an area starts to dominate, its the beginning of the end imo... hence now why so many small organisations struggling to exist, creating big fish in small ponds!

[DJWa]

Yes in the years down the line IF we even managed to get the joint convoying

 

 

Now lets make another thing clear this is not Lanarkshire's gig if this gets up and running we will all be equally entitled to make decisions

 

Lanarkshire at this point are the one's who have made the first step towards a positive future....this does not mean we the Lanarkshire are calling the shots

 

Now I cannot see why it matter's to your good self because your in aberdeen so your defo no getting in lol

 

my interest is George that if the west get it up and running the east might do the same

plus less traffic down the east with the west proposing to go down the west

[Guest stb-]

correct andy

I wonder how the Lanarkshire boys would feel if all the other feds got together and left them out the proposed amal

is it because they think Solway would scoop up the major prizes by being first drop

 

well guess what, if they don't include Solway they are 1st drop

mmmm the mind boggles

Davy i dont think it would bother a lot off them they have good birdage

and are having good racing at the moment and a lot of them like to go on there own with no other feds influencing the race . Im not even sure they would vote for it anyway at the AGM as John Quin has already stated . :emoticon-0167-beer:They can get 1000s of birds at there open (duplication races ) anyway so prob still dont need any others .

[bibendium]

I wouldnt convoy them it changes the nature of the race

 

 

It maybe change the nature of the race for the better if you fly into Ayrshire!!! our birds would get a true route imo

[JohnQuinn]

Tam & Tommy.

 

Tam and Tommy are neighbouring farmers, in the middle of the harvest Tommy's Combine Harvester broke down and he couldn't finish brining in his crop. Tam had just bought a brand new one and had finished his harvesting in jig time.

 

Now Tam could see Tommy was having difficulties, however he didn't want to offer his Harvester to Tommy in case he thought he was being a show off and cause offence to his neighbour.

 

Tommy on the other hand had thought to himself that he might be able to borrow Tam's new harvester to get his crops in and decided he would go and ask for a loan of it.

 

Off he went walking across the fields to ask Tam, but on the way over he started doubting himself and his neighbour saying "bet this smart Git says no" and hunts me off his ground. He carried on anyway but the thought of rejection was growing in his mind with every step he took until he totally convinced himself that Tam was DEFINITELY gonna say no.

( Of course Tam was just waiting to be asked so he could help his neighbour)

 

When Tommy got to Tam's door he knocked and Tam opened it, at which point Tommy blurted out "stick yer harvester where the sun don't shine" and promptly set off back across the fields.

 

My question is this, are you a Tam or a Tommy??

 

Seems to me there are a lot of Tommy's now commenting on this thread, looking for all possible negative outcomes and difficulties in the implementation of this idea, so i would ask you to have more faith in your neighbours and trust that they will only offer the hand of Friendship because that's the only type of hands i have, and the other officials that i have managed to contact are all of the same mind. So please place your trust in YOUR officilas by giving them the authority to decide things on your behalf, (or to negotiate an outcome as near as possible to the members mandate) with the full knowledge that the other officials they meet with will all offer a hand of friendship and co-operation to them. ATVB, John.

[geordie1234]

Tam & Tommy.

 

Tam and Tommy are neighbouring farmers, in the middle of the harvest Tommy's Combine Harvester broke down and he couldn't finish brining in his crop. Tam had just bought a brand new one and had finished his harvesting in jig time.

 

Now Tam could see Tommy was having difficulties, however he didn't want to offer his Harvester to Tommy in case he thought he was being a show off and cause offence to his neighbour.

 

Tommy on the other hand had thought to himself that he might be able to borrow Tam's new harvester to get his crops in and decided he would go and ask for a loan of it.

 

Off he went walking across the fields to ask Tam, but on the way over he started doubting himself and his neighbour saying "bet this smart Git says no" and hunts me off his ground. He carried on anyway but the thought of rejection was growing in his mind with every step he took until he totally convinced himself that Tam was DEFINITELY gonna say no.

( Of course Tam was just waiting to be asked so he could help his neighbour)

 

When Tommy got to Tam's door he knocked and Tam opened it, at which point Tommy blurted out "stick yer harvester where the sun don't shine" and promptly set off back across the fields.

 

My question is this, are you a Tam or a Tommy??

 

Seems to me there are a lot of Tommy's now commenting on this thread, looking for all possible negative outcomes and difficulties in the implementation of this idea, so i would ask you to have more faith in your neighbours and trust that they will only offer the hand of Friendship because that's the only type of hands i have, and the other officials that i have managed to contact are all of the same mind. So please place your trust in YOUR officilas by giving them the authority to decide things on your behalf, (or to negotiate an outcome as near as possible to the members mandate) with the full knowledge that the other officials they meet with will all offer a hand of friendship and co-operation to them. ATVB, John.