sapper756 Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 ( WHICH IS BEST FOR YB,S )what do members think is best for yb,s racing .to have 4 races from 60 miles then jump yb,s to race 135 miles. our have 3 races 60 mile 1 from 90 miles then race from 135 miles. with a poll members could vote which 1 they think would be best.Please place your vote on the poll Members opinions would be greatly appreciated
andy Burgess Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think for youngsters ,its best to increase the distance as they mature , rather than jump them . although in the past , have jumped them in at 130 + with good results .many roads lead to Rome they say
Tony C Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think a lot would be down to the size of the convoy. The bigger the birdage the harder it would be for them to pull out at the shorter distance races, giving them an extra few miles would help fragment the convoy. If I raced in a Fed with 3000+ pigeons I would like to see the first race at no less than 90 mile then a steady build up from there.
Delboy Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think a lot would be down to the size of the convoy. The bigger the birdage the harder it would be for them to pull out at the shorter distance races, giving them an extra few miles would help fragment the convoy. If I raced in a Fed with 3000+ pigeons I would like to see the first race at no less than 90 mile then a steady build up from there. very good point
JohnQuinn Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 Agree with Tony, no 60 miles races, start from 80 to 100 and let the birds sort themselves out before they over shoot their lofts.
ALF Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 sent 6 last year to 2 races 3 to each of 100 mls and 130 mls 1st timers and only lost 1 yb if they are good enough they will do it no problem!!!!
big blue bar Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 Alot will depend on your race program for us our first race is 75 ml , sometimes ours will only get one 75 ml then into 90 we have jumped birds into 130 before like was said before if their good enough they will come home
Wiley Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think 100-120 is a good point to start youngsters, jumping pigeons doesn't bother the pigeons but bothers the fancier, I think sometimes we can look at things far to deeply, if the youngsters are fit and healthy they don't know what distance there flying, they will come. But in my opinion they need plenty of races for experience whatever the distance.
robbiedoo. Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think 100-120 is a good point to start youngsters, jumping pigeons doesn't bother the pigeons but bothers the fancier, I think sometimes we can look at things far to deeply, if the youngsters are fit and healthy they don't know what distance there flying, they will come. But in my opinion they need plenty of races for experience whatever the distance. Well said I think the majority of fanciers are to soft on their doos as regards to which distance they can send them .
JohnQuinn Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 I think 100-120 is a good point to start youngsters, jumping pigeons doesn't bother the pigeons but bothers the fancier, I think sometimes we can look at things far to deeply, if the youngsters are fit and healthy they don't know what distance there flying, they will come. But in my opinion they need plenty of races for experience whatever the distance. 100% agree with every word, great post. Pity is, we don't seem to be in the Majority!! Such is Life!!!
Guest bigda Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 we in the Lancashire make the same mistake every year, wanting 80 mile plus races, but forgetting what it is actually happening to our birds, first of all we have predominately west winds, we cant go direct south, as that is not the way of the land as it lies to us, and at the 80 to 100 mile out we have predators that in a 5,000 convoy suffer at least 400 strikes per 100 mile flown, we will not consider flying with the wind but have those in the fed that have a mind set on where the young bird national is flown that year, and they by hook or buy crook on the day of the agm manage to get the program revolve around anything national, i cant under stand as to why they pee there pants at the thought of racing the young bird into a west area, when all the elements are against the young birds in our area, maybe one day i will be able to convince them that they are wasting there time trying to compete in a race that is near imposable to win against the wind. and they should have more consideration to the federation they are in, rather than to another that most of our members are not.
blaz Posted August 7, 2013 Report Posted August 7, 2013 4x60 mile races then out to 135 mile race .we will find out over next 2 weeks how the yb,s cope with this as we have had 3 from 60 mile otterburn another otterburn this week then a jump out to 135 mile.most of the fed has had only 2 from otterburn as not a lot of clubs sent to the 1st otterburn race. i can say for all that did not send to the 1st 1 we are all glad we did notsend. for the lads that did it was a very tough days racing . birdage will be 1000 to 2000 aprox
Guest bigda Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 4x60 mile races then out to 135 mile race .we will find out over next 2 weeks how the yb,s cope with this as we have had 3 from 60 mile otterburn another otterburn this week then a jump out to 135 mile.most of the fed has had only 2 from otterburn as not a lot of clubs sent to the 1st otterburn race. i can say for all that did not send to the 1st 1 we are all glad we did notsend. for the lads that did it was a very tough days racing . birdage will be 1000 to 2000 aprox sensible flying by your club, and there 4 races to win the birds over, there next step will not trouble the birds only the bop will change the race result, the good thing about the 4 races from there is they will not forget about it as they pass it all the time as old birds and the lanarkshire should take heed about having young birds first schooled on the line of flight if they want there birds to come from national races later on in there career known your bird knows its way home 60 mile out, with its eyes shut and also making sure its race directions are never changes again
Lennut Tar Posted August 8, 2013 Report Posted August 8, 2013 100% agree with every word, great post. Pity is, we don't seem to be in the Majority!! Such is Life!!! Is it ever "Such is life" add me to your clan thou A fit healthy pigeon should have no trouble flying 100/130 miles first off. Here at the moment, I know blokes that have missed the first 4 races & are starting off at 250 miles etc. Head wind !!!!!! cold & snow in the hills is the forecast for Saturday & I'm talking about babies etc.Enjoy.
just ask me Posted August 10, 2013 Report Posted August 10, 2013 I think 100-120 is a good point to start youngsters, jumping pigeons doesn't bother the pigeons but bothers the fancier, I think sometimes we can look at things far to deeply, if the youngsters are fit and healthy they don't know what distance there flying, they will come. But in my opinion they need plenty of races for experience whatever the distance. agree also a good thread
William Reid Posted August 11, 2013 Report Posted August 11, 2013 Young bird racing has now changed so much from what it used to be .in years gone by the young bird race card was to give them experience but nowadays young birds can learn just as much in the 2,3,or4 weeks training before racing .
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