Maidstone 2Nd Day Returns

[geordie1234]

I spoke to a very prominent national man yesterday at length on the dog and bone , he agreed this snfc needs a shake up from the TOP to the bottom , and get it back to where it used to be , he told me of things that he witnessed at marking , ie taking rubber ring numbers off the national sheets for club secretary,s to check after time in , this to me is I big big no no , security is surely a must .

[Novice]

Each transporter has it's own characteristics. On this occasion there were 3 transporters in use. Each would have had a different temperature inside and each would have had their own drinking arrangement. The quality of air would have been dependant on both the ventilation system and density of pigeon on each unit.

Therefore the birds on each transporter would have been subjected to widely varying conditions in the days since arrival on site and liberation.

 

When a race involves only a short stay in the transporter this will be of little consequence but for longer stays I am sure it must have a bearing on the "Open" result.

 

The above is not a criticism of anyone or anything but we must strive towards evening the playing field for every pigeon and every fancier.

[novo10]

I heard through the grapevine they're using a geraldy transporter for the longest race

[naedoos]

It's like the flint stones LOL should be using Geraldy transporters

 

 

 

Hmmmm 1000 doos = 1 escapee. 5000 doos = 5 escapee's???

[Rebus]

Great to see the birds lying down contented in the wicker baskets, long may it continue,btw the birds. Returning from Maidstone were in excellent condition. J

[Guest chad3646]

bigda talks sense sometimes and this is one of them

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

I heard through the grapevine they're using a geraldy transporter for the longest race

Yip, Midlands national have been ahead of the times for many years, just like all the premier organisations within the UK.

[The Transporter]

bigda talks sense sometimes and this is one of them

What does he know about the transporting feeding and watering of doos on a transporter eh nothing the vets report will sum up the condition of the birds all birds were inspected on the afternoon before the liberation not just the ones that mite have touched the contaminated water can anyone tell me how much water the Lanarkshire transporters drinkers hold

[Guest chad3646]

What does he know about the transporting feeding and watering of doos on a transporter eh nothing the vets report will sum up the condition of the birds all birds were inspected on the afternoon before the liberation not just the ones that mite have touched the contaminated water can anyone tell me how much water the Lanarkshire transporters drinkers hold

 

 

transporter i am only talking about the drinking side of it on the transporter, your other point about how much water it holds? if it is anything like the old lanarkshire fed one i dont think that was cleaned out since they got it

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

What does he know about the transporting feeding and watering of doos on a transporter eh nothing the vets report will sum up the condition of the birds all birds were inspected on the afternoon before the liberation not just the ones that mite have touched the contaminated water can anyone tell me how much water the Lanarkshire transporters drinkers hold

They hold more water that pigeons can get access to than any other vehicle within Scotland, 2 blue drinkers which were used at Maidstone only cover roughly 70% - 80% of the back of a basket, well that is if you can get 2 on, where as the Geraldy drinker is the full length of the crate and more to the point the point,the crate is 2 inches longer/wider than a wicker basket, no comparison when it comes to water available to our pigeons.

 

Feel Mr Baird that your embarrassing yourself with your posts, everyone of your posts since you joined pigeonbasics, its all about self interest with you. Your the one that's getting paid when using wicker basket vehicles in a SNFC race.

[dal2]

They hold more water that pigeons can get access to than any other vehicle within Scotland, 2 blue drinkers which were used at Maidstone only cover roughly 70% - 80% of the back of a basket, well that is if you can get 2 on, where as the Geraldy drinker is the full length of the crate and more to the point the point,the crate is 2 inches longer/wider than a wicker basket, no comparison when it comes to water available to our pigeons.

 

Feel Mr Baird that your embarrassing yourself with your posts, everyone of your posts since you joined pigeonbasics, its all about self interest with you. Your the one that's getting paid when using wicker basket vehicles in a SNFC race.

The old boy and me were watching the full baskets at Gretna that wer sealed ready to go and the limitations of the hook on drinkers are quite apparent when viewed objectively.

Watched the NRCC water at Ecclefechan last year and was quite taken with the drinkers and feeders being passed thru a hole in the front and pushed thru the centre of the basket? Looked good and wondered if the baskets were made unque for this lorry?

[geordie1234]

What does he know about the transporting feeding and watering of doos on a transporter eh nothing the vets report will sum up the condition of the birds all birds were inspected on the afternoon before the liberation not just the ones that mite have touched the contaminated water can anyone tell me how much water the Lanarkshire transporters drinkers hold

lol

[Guest bigda]

What does he know about the transporting feeding and watering of doos on a transporter eh nothing the vets report will sum up the condition of the birds all birds were inspected on the afternoon before the liberation not just the ones that mite have touched the contaminated water can anyone tell me how much water the Lanarkshire transporters drinkers hold

 

 

have you ever seen a sick budgie well they don't look sick, till the hit the floor then the other budgies eat it pigeons with less water than others have the same problem look good but what they do is go down for a drink in a pond where as the doo that drank his fill get of on his road home now all these birds that are turning in after replenished them self before making for home and i might as well say it they birds did not get to the drinkers in them baskets those baskets have a bridge in the center and most in the lanarkshire trim that center out when we used wicker baskets but it seem the fife guys ain't up to speed as yet as with regards to trim the center from the basket those blue drinkers don't hold much More that 1 1/2 pints and to add they are not meant for those baskets a blind man would know that so back to what i know, and you know there is a big difference. as you have not mentioned how many gallon you used at maidstone bigda here for the under dog.

[The Transporter]

They hold more water that pigeons can get access to than any other vehicle within Scotland, 2 blue drinkers which were used at Maidstone only cover roughly 70% - 80% of the back of a basket, well that is if you can get 2 on, where as the Geraldy drinker is the full length of the crate and more to the point the point,the crate is 2 inches longer/wider than a wicker basket, no comparison when it comes to water available to our pigeons.

 

Feel Mr Baird that your embarrassing yourself with your posts, everyone of your posts since you joined pigeonbasics, its all about self interest with you. Your the one that's getting paid when using wicker basket vehicles in a SNFC race.

I'm certainly not embarrasing my self have still not been given an answer as to how much water they hold ie in pints or litres

 

They hold more water that pigeons can get access to than any other vehicle within Scotland, 2 blue drinkers which were used at Maidstone only cover roughly 70% - 80% of the back of a basket, well that is if you can get 2 on, where as the Geraldy drinker is the full length of the crate and more to the point the point,the crate is 2 inches longer/wider than a wicker basket, no comparison when it comes to water available to our pigeons.

 

Feel Mr Baird that your embarrassing yourself with your posts, everyone of your posts since you joined pigeonbasics, its all about self interest with you. Your the one that's getting paid when using wicker basket vehicles in a SNFC race.

I'm certainly not embarrasing my self have still not been given an answer as to how much water they hold ie in pints or litres

[Guest bigda]

I'm certainly not embarrasing my self have still not been given an answer as to how much water they hold ie in pints or litres

 

 

I'm certainly not embarrasing my self have still not been given an answer as to how much water they hold ie in pints or litres

 

 

did you use 60 5gallon drums for maidstone honest answer would be nice, the lanarkshire has not had the transporters long and we have not campted out for 4 days but i am sure if we are at a site with water we do not need 5 gallon drums

as it is filled up by hose into the tanks watering cans already got yous into trouble why use them again

[K J Young]

did you use 60 5gallon drums for maidstone honest answer would be nice, the lanarkshire has not had the transporters long and we have not campted out for 4 days but i am sure if we are at a site with water we do not need 5 gallon drums

as it is filled up by hose into the tanks watering cans already got yous into trouble why use them again

The central transporter that i had at maidstone has an 500 litre water tank which was emptyied and filled 4 times over the weekend. Now am not saying that the birds drank all that water , wé are there to look after the birds , as the saying goes don,t tell yer maw how ta suck eggs.

IMO , wé are all to blâme , most of the yearlings on the transporter would have never had à holdover before . And it does,nt matter which lorries that are used this problem will occur.

I was told by an ayrshire member last year when his birds were bought back from carenten after 4 days that They were in wonderfull condition , so i have nothing against geraly transportation. But They were brought back .

As for personal gain . I personally have taken 25 days holiday from my work , as i am previlaged to be asked to be one of the SNFC convoyers .

Ps the birds at alencon are looking tremendous.

[hotrod]

The central transporter that i had at maidstone has an 500 litre water tank which was emptyied and filled 4 times over the weekend. Now am not saying that the birds drank all that water , wé are there to look after the birds , as the saying goes don,t tell yer maw how ta suck eggs.

IMO , wé are all to blâme , most of the yearlings on the transporter would have never had à holdover before . And it does,nt matter which lorries that are used this problem will occur.

I was told by an ayrshire member last year when his birds were bought back from carenten after 4 days that They were in wonderfull condition , so i have nothing against geraly transportation. But They were brought back .

As for personal gain . I personally have taken 25 days holiday from my work , as i am previlaged to be asked to be one of the SNFC convoyers .

Ps the birds at alencon are looking tremendous.

Thanx for he info about the alencon birds kenny . Any idea how many away ?

[K J Young]

At a rough guess 1400 birds in convoy

[hotrod]

At a rough guess 1400 birds in convoy

Thanx kenny.

[blucock]

Very good , Lindsay ,s dad would have been proud of him well done wee man , but I'm afraid you put down in at 15.40 Saltcoats and took the plaudits ie big Gareth saying well done baz , but u never said anything to the contrary .

 

it doesn't warrant an answer ....

 

15.40 Saltcoats - where did it say it was MY doo? Why would I ever try to claim someone elses time? I was simply informing of the birds location and time. I didn't even see Gareth's post until late on last night. Never mind...

 

 

Yes, Lindsay's dad would be proud - imo close to the best pigeon in the race on the day - outstanding 1,2 for T Blair and the Saltcoats doo as good a performance in my eyes.

[hotrod]

it doesn't warrant an answer ....

 

15.40 Saltcoats - where did it say it was MY doo? Why would I ever try to claim someone elses time? I was simply informing of the birds location and time. I didn't even see Gareth's post until late on last night. Never mind...

 

 

Yes, Lindsay's dad would be proud - imo close to the best pigeon in the race on the day - outstanding 1,2 for T Blair and the Saltcoats doo as good a performance in my eyes.

Without a doubt a great pigeon to Lindsay , in a west wind. To boot , ps you could have posted, l.cowan 15.40 Saltcoats . I thought the same as Gareth that it was yours , would have been nice eh ?

[Delboy]

Who are the convoyers for Alencon Kenny and were they the same guys at Maidstone. ps. I must say the birds returned in superb condition after 5 days hold over, well done.

[aye ready]

got my 4yr old blue cock tonight,he must have came after half 8 as thats the time i came up the stair went down to lock the lofts up at half 9 and he was in the corridor pleased to see him thats me up to 4/12 sent

[blucock]

have you ever seen a sick budgie well they don't look sick, till the hit the floor then the other budgies eat it pigeons with less water than others have the same problem look good but what they do is go down for a drink in a pond where as the doo that drank his fill get of on his road home now all these birds that are turning in after replenished them self before making for home and i might as well say it they birds did not get to the drinkers in them baskets those baskets have a bridge in the center and most in the lanarkshire trim that center out when we used wicker baskets but it seem the fife guys ain't up to speed as yet as with regards to trim the center from the basket those blue drinkers don't hold much More that 1 1/2 pints and to add they are not meant for those baskets a blind man would know that so back to what i know, and you know there is a big difference. as you have not mentioned how many gallon you used at maidstone bigda here for the under dog.

 

you might have a point there, something definitely tried to eat our blue cock

 

got my 4yr old blue cock tonight,he must have came after half 8 as thats the time i came up the stair went down to lock the lofts up at half 9 and he was in the corridor pleased to see him thats me up to 4/12 sent

 

Well in - it's a relief when you see them there !

[Delboy]

got my 4yr old blue cock tonight,he must have came after half 8 as thats the time i came up the stair went down to lock the lofts up at half 9 and he was in the corridor pleased to see him thats me up to 4/12 sent

 

Clermont Martin