alec guinness Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 JUST HAD A LOOK ON THE SNFC WEBSITE AT EVERY RACE (2-3 RACES MISSING FROM SITE)FROM 2005 TO THE CURRENT AND HAVE ADDED ALL POSITIONS WON IN THE TOP TEN OPEN AND WHAT SECTION THESE WINNING BIRDS FLY INTO,I HAVE NOT INCLUDED BIRDAGES,MEMBERS,SECTION SIZES ETC JUST THE AMOUNT OF TOP TEN OPEN FINISHES FOR EACH SECTION.DID GET A SLIGHT EYE OPENER BUT NOT UNEXPECTED,HOPE THIS IS OF SOME INTEREST. :) SECTION A = 124 TOP TEN OPEN POSITIONS.SECTION B = 171 " " " " "SECTION C = 82 " " " " "SECTION D = 31 " " " " "SECTION E = 26 " " " " "SECTION F = 3 " " " " "SECTION G = 10 " " " " " :)
geordie1234 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 Think i'll save my snfc joining fee and just race with the fed lol
robbiedoo. Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 Think i'll save my snfc joining fee and just race with the fed lol hows that ???????
Guest bigda Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 JUST HAD A LOOK ON THE SNFC WEBSITE AT EVERY RACE (2-3 RACES MISSING FROM SITE)FROM 2005 TO THE CURRENT AND HAVE ADDED ALL POSITIONS WON IN THE TOP TEN OPEN AND WHAT SECTION THESE WINNING BIRDS FLY INTO,I HAVE NOT INCLUDED BIRDAGES,MEMBERS,SECTION SIZES ETC JUST THE AMOUNT OF TOP TEN OPEN FINISHES FOR EACH SECTION.DID GET A SLIGHT EYE OPENER BUT NOT UNEXPECTED,HOPE THIS IS OF SOME INTEREST. SECTION A = 124 TOP TEN OPEN POSITIONS.SECTION B = 171 " " " " "SECTION C = 82 " " " " "SECTION D = 31 " " " " "SECTION E = 26 " " " " "SECTION F = 3 " " " " "SECTION G = 10 " " " " " the reason this is happning is a bit like the tortoise and the hare but the race is over at 360 mile the velocity is then set and the tortoise is getting to carry the hare on his back get them all in at 520 mile minimum then that will set the pace of the velocity
Guest bigda Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 JUST HAD A LOOK ON THE SNFC WEBSITE AT EVERY RACE (2-3 RACES MISSING FROM SITE)FROM 2005 TO THE CURRENT AND HAVE ADDED ALL POSITIONS WON IN THE TOP TEN OPEN AND WHAT SECTION THESE WINNING BIRDS FLY INTO,I HAVE NOT INCLUDED BIRDAGES,MEMBERS,SECTION SIZES ETC JUST THE AMOUNT OF TOP TEN OPEN FINISHES FOR EACH SECTION.DID GET A SLIGHT EYE OPENER BUT NOT UNEXPECTED,HOPE THIS IS OF SOME INTEREST. SECTION A = 124 TOP TEN OPEN POSITIONS.SECTION B = 171 " " " " "SECTION C = 82 " " " " "SECTION D = 31 " " " " "SECTION E = 26 " " " " "SECTION F = 3 " " " " "SECTION G = 10 " " " " "
geordie1234 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 It was only a joke on how hard it is to get a pigeon in the top ten in the area i live in, suppose makes it al the more special when it happens.
Guest bigda Posted January 22, 2013 Report Posted January 22, 2013 i think i have found the ideal race point for the national it is in germany easy to get two it is called CELLE its distance to blyth is 501 mile to aberdeen it is 576 mile and it is 619 mile to glasgow now that cant be fairer to every fancier would you be scared to go there would one eyed jacks fancy that, i think thats should be proposed and if you dont like it well your out. just to add 531 mile to eyemouth 579 mile to edinburgh and 583 to dundee 612 to stirling
dal2 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 JUST HAD A LOOK ON THE SNFC WEBSITE AT EVERY RACE (2-3 RACES MISSING FROM SITE)FROM 2005 TO THE CURRENT AND HAVE ADDED ALL POSITIONS WON IN THE TOP TEN OPEN AND WHAT SECTION THESE WINNING BIRDS FLY INTO,I HAVE NOT INCLUDED BIRDAGES,MEMBERS,SECTION SIZES ETC JUST THE AMOUNT OF TOP TEN OPEN FINISHES FOR EACH SECTION.DID GET A SLIGHT EYE OPENER BUT NOT UNEXPECTED,HOPE THIS IS OF SOME INTEREST. :) SECTION A = 124 TOP TEN OPEN POSITIONS.SECTION B = 171 " " " " "SECTION C = 82 " " " " "SECTION D = 31 " " " " "SECTION E = 26 " " " " "SECTION F = 3 " " " " "SECTION G = 10 " " " " " :) Would have been better with the birdages/members numbers john but dont think thats pos from the web site.That would have given us a percentage that nobody could have disagreed with? Theres a job for ye then mate get them results looked oot????LOL
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 i think i have found the ideal race point for the national it is in germany easy to get two it is called CELLE its distance to blyth is 501 mile to aberdeen it is 576 mile and it is 619 mile to glasgow now that cant be fairer to every fancier would you be scared to go there would one eyed jacks fancy that, i think thats should be proposed and if you dont like it well your out. just to add 531 mile to eyemouth 579 mile to edinburgh and 583 to dundee 612 to stirling Truth be told Danny, very few would fly directly across the north sea from Germany. They would probably still cross around Belgium / France, so in effect the distances, whilst being the accurate race measurements, would not reflect the flown distances.
Guest bigda Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 Truth be told Danny, very few would fly directly across the north sea from Germany. They would probably still cross around Belgium / France, so in effect the distances, whilst being the accurate race measurements, would not reflect the flown distances.we must make the races for the shortest flier the same by going across landin times of old all birds where equal as far as make up was they where all of the same families type now races are set at 380 mile when a sprint pigeon is setting the going rate or velocity of the bird no fault of its own has the equivalent of flying from worcester say another 250 mile more how can that have a fair advantage as i have seen rain on one side of a pavement and dry on the other side what lies ahead of a pigeon on route when there is birds in there sheds standing on one leg asleepwhile the race might not be over to them till the next morn this should be adressedto save face we have already heard from the east guys what they will do if things aint right well i say make it right that you all fly 500 mile and if its to be one doo out all out.yous are they guys that want birds to have records set that fly with pride lets see you all throw your hat in the ring never mind what the bird will do what will you do for the bird. distance racing is your game not money i have said CELLE IN GERMANY and see where the true bird comes from pi ss about with what you are at you are kidding your self on
andy Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 we must make the races for the shortest flier the same by going across landin times of old all birds where equal as far as make up was they where all of the same families type now races are set at 380 mile when a sprint pigeon is setting the going rate or velocity of the bird no fault of its own has the equivalent of flying from worcester say another 250 mile more how can that have a fair advantage as i have seen rain on one side of a pavement and dry on the other side what lies ahead of a pigeon on route when there is birds in there sheds standing on one leg asleepwhile the race might not be over to them till the next morn this should be adressedto save face we have already heard from the east guys what they will do if things aint right well i say make it right that you all fly 500 mile and if its to be one doo out all out.yous are they guys that want birds to have records set that fly with pride lets see you all throw your hat in the ring never mind what the bird will do what will you do for the bird. distance racing is your game not money i have said CELLE IN GERMANY and see where the true bird comes from pi ss about with what you are at you are kidding your self onYou are the perfect example of some one that thinks he knows how to sort pigeon racing out but doesn't race or contributes virtually expletive removed* all to any organisation and has won expletive removed* all too. Unqualified!
novo10 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 You are the perfect example of some one that thinks he knows how to sort pigeon racing out but doesn't race or contributes virtually expletive removed* all to any organisation and has won expletive removed* all too. Unqualified!like that andy a wouldnt even let him scrape oot
big blue bar Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 Truth be told Danny, very few would fly directly across the north sea from Germany. They would probably still cross around Belgium / France, so in effect the distances, whilst being the accurate race measurements, would not reflect the flown distances.what race point reflects true miles flown ? its about time a breaking point was introduced
dal2 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 what race point reflects true miles flown ? its about time a breaking point was introducedWhere would the breaking point be?
big blue bar Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 Where would the breaking point be?right in the middle off the country south off the border about 40-60 miles into england or its about time we started raceing birds down the middle ,then there would nt be the bickering about advatages off raceing down the east and the west
dal2 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 right in the middle off the country south off the border about 40-60 miles into england or its about time we started raceing birds down the middle ,then there would nt be the bickering about advatages off raceing down the east and the westI think alencon and such are quite central compared to falaise/rennes/nantes? How would the members react to the south getting a better measurement from the breaking point?
big blue bar Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 I think alencon and such are quite central compared to falaise/rennes/nantes? How would the members react to the south getting a better measurement from the breaking point?like athing else will not please abody
dkj Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 like athing else will not please abody i would go for reims everybody flying over 500ml
hotrod Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 i would go for reims everybody flying over 500mlI agree Davie , had a great race a few years back ,but out come the unfair brigade ,and back to alencon ,beats me that one surely good racing is first and foremost ?
dal2 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 I agree Davie , had a great race a few years back ,but out come the unfair brigade ,and back to alencon ,beats me that one surely good racing is first and foremost ?Ye can have good and bad yins frae anywhere stuart?
Guest bigda Posted January 23, 2013 Report Posted January 23, 2013 You are the perfect example of some one that thinks he knows how to sort pigeon racing out but doesn't race or contributes virtually expletive removed* all to any organisation and has won expletive removed* all too. Unqualified! would you race out of oslo then thats good from you i bought a young bird of you 2010 and it couldent beat late breeds home never bothered registering it and gave it away its best time was eating time
tiger Posted January 24, 2013 Report Posted January 24, 2013 would you race out of oslo then thats good from you i bought a young bird of you 2010 and it couldent beat late breeds home never bothered registering it and gave it away its best time was eating time like ive said you can give a man joiner,s tools but that dont make him a joiner, are you getting my drift danny
hotrod Posted January 24, 2013 Report Posted January 24, 2013 Ye can have good and bad yins frae anywhere stuart?Aye Steven yer right mate .i just find that fanciers want to race from A or B. only because it gives them a better mileage not because they get better racing that's the annoying thing ,I really don't give a monkeys where we race from as long as we get good races .
alex wight Posted January 24, 2013 Report Posted January 24, 2013 JUST HAD A LOOK ON THE SNFC WEBSITE AT EVERY RACE (2-3 RACES MISSING FROM SITE)FROM 2005 TO THE CURRENT AND HAVE ADDED ALL POSITIONS WON IN THE TOP TEN OPEN AND WHAT SECTION THESE WINNING BIRDS FLY INTO,I HAVE NOT INCLUDED BIRDAGES,MEMBERS,SECTION SIZES ETC JUST THE AMOUNT OF TOP TEN OPEN FINISHES FOR EACH SECTION.DID GET A SLIGHT EYE OPENER BUT NOT UNEXPECTED,HOPE THIS IS OF SOME INTEREST. :) SECTION A = 124 TOP TEN OPEN POSITIONS.SECTION B = 171 " " " " "SECTION C = 82 " " " " "SECTION D = 31 " " " " "SECTION E = 26 " " " " "SECTION F = 3 " " " " "SECTION G = 10 " " " " " :) Very interesting alec. Comparing it to the one that i done for the young birds, section A seems to fair better with old birds, as only 1 young bird made it in the top ten. The question has got to be, why, could it be the sheep factor, where young birds tend to stay in a batch, till too late to break? then once they are older they have more confidence to break earlier. It all makes interesting reading, its just a pity that the post gets hijacked to attack people, especially after all the work that the likes of you and i do to give the fanciers the facts of whats happening.
dal2 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Posted January 24, 2013 Very interesting alec. Comparing it to the one that i done for the young birds, section A seems to fair better with old birds, as only 1 young bird made it in the top ten. The question has got to be, why, could it be the sheep factor, where young birds tend to stay in a batch, till too late to break? then once they are older they have more confidence to break earlier. It all makes interesting reading, its just a pity that the post gets hijacked to attack people, especially after all the work that the likes of you and i do to give the fanciers the facts of whats happening.CAnt speak for all the south section but I like to send to the yb nat but only when my team are plentiful!! Since Leicester has been the race point then it has NEVER been better than 50% returns!!! I have had good results in the section before but NOBODY down here sends to the yb nat for open results just the section??? Maybe the drag has got an influence but never seem to get any reported up the east??
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