Big Davie Posted January 28, 2013 Report Posted January 28, 2013 the only way the nat gold cup will be won in the lanarkshire area, is if the velocitys are in the 900.Try telling Davie Eliot that, i do believe Newbiggin is in the Lanarkshire area
alec guinness Posted January 28, 2013 Report Posted January 28, 2013 John i have always been against lowering the standards in the National i argued strongly against bringing it down from 1 in 15 when i was on the committee, when i saw the late Davie Angus's performances 130 odd diplomas when it was 1 in 15 and only two races for most of his career thats kind of standards that made it a great club. dont disagree with your principles Jock,but all other uk classic and national clubs are a lot less even than our 1/10 so i think we have the ratio correct. Davie Angus what a fancier and performances to dream about timing birds at 8 years old and even 9 and 10 to win sections!!! but these doos and fanciers are not here anymore and times change,look at the last 3 600mile races into the west section bourges,tours and niort approx 240 birds sent only 10 birds winning a prize,not sure what the answer is although a bird flying between 600-750 miles maybe entitled to a wee bit more chance of that prized national ticket. :)
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 28, 2013 Report Posted January 28, 2013 At one time the west dominated the national and the east didn't have much of a look in. The boys from the east kept plugging away and took heart when an east doo scored well.I am speaking from ignorance here so do not get up in arms about my comments, but the way I see it this all changed when the east upped its send and the spoils were shared more evenly. It further changed when the west started to race the east coast because of the BOP problem.Apparently the BOP problem is countrywide now, so perhaps if the west start racing the traditional west route and increase their send, the results may even up again.
JohnQuinn Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 The sooner the Majority realise the better that it is NOT where you race TO!! that counts, its where we race FROM!! that determines the division of prizes, the better off EVERYONE will be in the SNFC.
Guest bigda Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 AND WHO WON IT 2 YRS AGO AND WHAT FED WERE THEY IN ??? AND THERE VELOCITY WAS 1195, ANSWER ON A POSTCARD TO BIGDA CARE OF PIGEON BASICS yes sorry rab, you are correct I forgot about that i never gave yer man mr elliot in newbiggings a thought i was always under the impression that he was in the same section as novo 10, frank 123 or it was vinny that said we needed to be in the 900 v before we have a chance in the nat
tiger Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 yes sorry rab, you are correct I forgot about that i never gave yer man mr elliot in newbiggings a thought i was always under the impression that he was in the same section as novo 10, frank 123 or it was vinny that said we needed to be in the 900 v before we have a chance in the nat danny if novo was in ur section he would be doing a wee mac on yous top loft
Guest bigda Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 danny if novo was in ur section he would be doing a wee mac on yous top loft how far is newbiggins from carluke novo 10 says hes 7mile yet he cant get in the lanarkshire or the nat section any idea on that:
novo10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 how far is newbiggins from carluke novo 10 says hes 7mile yet he cant get in the lanarkshire or the nat section any idea on that:danny we are only givin j ohara at allanton about5 mile
novo10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 and we get about 9 mile from davy elliot
Scousebilly Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 and we get about 9 mile from davy elliot think Section E are scared of a lot of flyers next to them, Midland National is won on both sides at least 50miles east to west
Guest bigda Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 danny we are only givin j ohara at allanton about5 mile is the border line for the nat is it not from falkirk caldercruix shotts down to lanark then to symington. out to straven to east kilbride cambuslang, chryston kirkintilloch
novo10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 is the border line for the nat is it not from falkirk caldercruix shotts down to lanark then to symington. out to straven to east kilbride cambuslang, chryston kirkintillochdanny am in west lothian a mile and a half from fauldhouse
novo10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 think Section E are scared of a lot of flyers next to them, Midland National is won on both sides at least 50miles east to westif we are going to win the national it wont matter to us what section we are iin so heres hoping
Rebus Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 dont disagree with your principles Jock,but all other uk classic and national clubs are a lot less even than our 1/10 so i think we have the ratio correct. Davie Angus what a fancier and performances to dream about timing birds at 8 years old and even 9 and 10 to win sections!!! but these doos and fanciers are not here anymore and times change,look at the last 3 600mile races into the west section bourges,tours and niort approx 240 birds sent only 10 birds winning a prize,not sure what the answer is although a bird flying between 600-750 miles maybe entitled to a wee bit more chance of that prized national ticket. :) Still can't accept lowering the standards is good for the club where will it stop, we will finish up handing out diplomas at race marking for just entering,when you lower the standards you lose the sense of achievement.
novo10 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 Still can't accept lowering the standards is good for the club where will it stop, we will finish up handing out diplomas at race marking for just entering,when you lower the standards you lose the sense of achievement.ur right jock
VMS Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 think Section E are scared of a lot of flyers next to them, Midland National is won on both sides at least 50miles east to westSeems quite clear that you dont have a clue what your talking about when it comes to Section E.
alec guinness Posted January 29, 2013 Report Posted January 29, 2013 think Section E are scared of a lot of flyers next to them, Midland National is won on both sides at least 50miles east to west we fly in section E and sit the furthest north west in the section bar none!!!!(30 miles)and i can assure you we will fly against anyone!!we have also been lucky enough to have won the section. ;)think you might be at the wind up though!
Scousebilly Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 we fly in section E and sit the furthest north west in the section bar none!!!!(30 miles)and i can assure you we will fly against anyone!!we have also been lucky enough to have won the section. ;)think you might be at the wind up though! Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec
andy Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec GREAT POST
lanarkshire lad Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec Mate whats wrong with feeding some beans? and there is a lot to be said about old strains of pigeons that have been tried and tested over the years especially at the 500mile+ races. You might be a thoroughly modern mr but good pigeons will win against the best with beans in there diet, to many old wives tales in this game.
Guest chad3646 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Mate whats wrong with feeding some beans? and there is a lot to be said about old strains of pigeons that have been tried and tested over the years especially at the 500mile+ races. You might be a thoroughly modern mr but good pigeons will win against the best with beans in there diet, to many old wives tales in this game. beans one of the best grains about like i said on another thread it was all the old timers could get and they could get them out the distance races
hotrod Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 If I could only feed one seed I would feed beans. I'm talking about all round feed for breeding racing the lot not just for one thing.
VMS Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec So you recognize that the section E birds are the best in the country. why did you not go to the lads in the East to acquire your pigeons seeing that they are more advanced. :lol: :emoticon-0138-thinking:
dms5686 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec Its a well known fact over the years that when west and east section fanciers swap birds that the east doos dont do well flying into the west but the west doos do well flying into the east
Guest stb- Posted January 30, 2013 Report Posted January 30, 2013 Anyone who tops there Fed and Sec does well, hats off to them, but 5-6 lads on this web site, who fly in Sec E are stuck in the dark ages they would be still running to the town clock if it was up to them, they trade old strains of pigeons, still feed beans, dont medicate and one lad hasint botherd to separate his birds yet I have bought birds offf top Lanarkshire flyers and they have done the job straight away down here so im not knocking all in that sec but they have more than there fair share of dinosaurs, the Lads over in the east seam much more advanced, looking for new birds and methodes all the time, but dont blame where you are because lot of lads in sec E do the bussiness in your sec theres plenty lads do well feeding beans , beans would be main part of my feeding , I havnt split my birds yet either not because i can be bothered i always do it that way split for a few weeks before opening the boxes again to pair as i only fly natural . As for not medicating , i dont think theres anyone who does well can say they never medicate cause that just dosent happen . A lot of the old strains of pigeons still do well all over the uk and ireland at the distance races so nowt wrong there either. I dare say if i was flying in unc or somewhere where the competition and prizes were good i would adopt other systems ie feeding and birds . As at club or fed level there is really nothing to fly for until at 370 miles when combines or nats kick in , until then theres no prize cards or prize money so dont see point in having birds peaking early .
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