nogin Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 WEE DA YOUR OOT YER HE :emoticon-0167-beer:
andy Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 east to middle route going EASTST BOSWELSKELSO NEWCASTLE RACE COURSEBISHOP AUCKLANDNORTH ALLERTONRIPON OPEN YEARLINGSELBY OPENDONCASTER OPENPETERBOROUGH OPENMAIDSTONE OPENLILLE.OPENYOUNG BIRDS ST BOSWELLS KELSO KELSONEWCASTLENEWCASTLE OPENBISHOP AUCKLAND OPENIf you want an impartial view with experience of the race points you've chosen they're all poor consistently, except for Selby Peterborough and Maidstone
kingbilly 1 Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Posted October 5, 2012 Surely no much need for 3xAppleby Tam? OB racin?just to keep the sprint men happy like bigda
Guest bigda Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 If you want an impartial view with experience of the race points you've chosen they're all poor consistently, except for Selby Peterborough and Maidstone we need to hammer it into the birds that is there route from nat racing the nothern ones got to get them to brake from newcastle area or we are 2 hours behind every member in the nat
naedoos Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 we need to hammer it into the birds that is there route from nat racing the nothern ones got to get them to brake from newcastle area or we are 2 hours behind every member in the nat Well done Danny, when you joining
DJWa Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 east to middle route going EASTST BOSWELSKELSO NEWCASTLE RACE COURSEBISHOP AUCKLANDNORTH ALLERTONRIPON OPEN YEARLINGSELBY OPENDONCASTER OPENPETERBOROUGH OPENMAIDSTONE OPENLILLE.OPENYOUNG BIRDS ST BOSWELLS KELSO KELSONEWCASTLENEWCASTLE OPENBISHOP AUCKLAND OPENdanny are bishop auckland,northallerton and doncaster not closed as racepoints and kelso and st boswells are graveyards especially for youngbirdsfife fed had it real bad the last 3 years from kelsoand we had some real bad st boswell races
tiger Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 we need to hammer it into the birds that is there route from nat racing the nothern ones got to get them to brake from newcastle area or we are 2 hours behind every member in the natdanny ur birds should be breaking long before newcastle , jmo
Guest stb- Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 danny ur birds should be breaking long before newcastle , jmothey should but they dont john they lways come from m9 edinburgh side along the forth from an easterly or a north easterly direction . they have done this for years now even when we were still on the west route in 2003 2004 they seemed to go round the hills at the borders rather than come up through them , at one time all the birds came from southerly directions but can count on one hand the amount of my birds thats came from the south in the last 10 yrs
ALF Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 We need to find out about race points either east or west route as we dont want to be picking out places to lib at our race programme meeting then find we cant get into half of them also we need to try and get as much info on race points as possible too re lib site percy in the vicinity etc and how other feds are fairing from the same points
geordie1234 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 I'll be there next week to see how this pans out
blue pied Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 east to middle route going EASTST BOSWELSKELSO NEWCASTLE RACE COURSEBISHOP AUCKLANDNORTH ALLERTONRIPON OPEN YEARLINGSELBY OPENDONCASTER OPENPETERBOROUGH OPENMAIDSTONE OPENLILLE.OPENYOUNG BIRDS ST BOSWELLS KELSO KELSONEWCASTLENEWCASTLE OPENBISHOP AUCKLAND OPENwhy st boswells and kelso? pick one and go twice ?
ALF Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 I'll be there next week to see how this pans outGeo it's a fed delegate meeting next week mate
ALF Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 When is the AGM?The race programme meeting is on the 13th of october at 1pm in the Beltane bowling club in Wishaw and the AGM is in the same place on the 24th of november Geo
geordie1234 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 so at the race programme is that were we decide east west etc or is that just the delegates?
ALF Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 so at the race programme is that were we decide east west etc or is that just the delegates? The race programme is the be all and end all of what route we go Geo although some race points may change mate
geordie1234 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 The race programme is the be all and end all of what route we go Geo although some race points may change mateSo that's the wan I'm going to then on the 13th loaded wae my vote
Guest bigda Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 why st boswells and kelso? pick one and go twice ? only thinking about the time of year as it can be a bit Baltic the weather seems to be on a turn for the worse and it been east winds mainly now so wouldn't like to fly at that time of year into it then dog leg only trying to think of it as a good starter all though mr h preferred that we jumped ever race the reason for that was his way of thinking was if you have 2 choices you only send half yer team he wanted yer birds every week and if you did not do that for him your birds where then to face the bigger jump all the time bigda is only here for the pilgrim no the dollar
Guest bigda Posted October 5, 2012 Report Posted October 5, 2012 kelso aint a bad race point for the guys in the west as we get east winds then yes i can see it be bad for the fife guys as the birds have to face into it you would need to go out to eyemouth give your bird a easier chance as the wind will blow your bird west but you would have less stress on them at that race point remember the east wind ain't no good for man nor beast so if your in fife and you let go at kelso your birds are going to be coming home to a head east wind this is what is needed to be worked out at the start of the season as your game could be over before you begin if i was in the north i would wait 3 week later then start racing
Guest bigda Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 danny are bishop auckland,northallerton and doncaster not closed as racepoints and kelso and st boswells are graveyards especially for youngbirdsfife fed had it real bad the last 3 years from kelsoand we had some real bad st boswell races its not kelso that is killing yous, its now east winds there at that time of year, the lanarkshire have the same problem when its west wind in the further nat races, as the last 90mile is then into a head wind, wich makes it a 2-1/2 - 3 hour race for the west section when they have timed into eyemouth longer and head wind as the birds are staring to feel the strain then dodge the hawk enroute
gulkie Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 danny ur birds should be breaking long before newcastle , jmoThe only time the south and west doos will break is when we sendAs many birds as the north and east they will get the drag with Numbers
tiger Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 The only time the south and west doos will break is when we sendAs many birds as the north and east they will get the drag with Numberswell the guys in the south have had there share of nat wins top doo men down there and the guys in the north are the same . jmo
Guest bigda Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 well the guys in the south have had there share of nat wins top doo men down there and the guys in the north are the same . jmo would agree that the east side winners, would be very close to the coast, as once the birds get into a state of a trancewhen in flight, it would not surprise me one bit, IF the coastal birds have to be called out of the sky, and every bird going over there sheds will hear the rattle from there bean tins. but if your bird had to fly 150 mile less than the furthest or in the case of summer weather west winds and west flying. i am sure a wing beat from a bird flying 150 mile less or in some races flying 250 mile less I wouldn't be looking for distance Birds to win the nat what would the point be IF you lived in duns say you would not want to buy a bird from say fraserburgh if you where flying in the gold cup. where as a middle distance bird is all you require, and that to me should be taken into account when the velocities are worked out. or as some would say one out all out.late lib as that can have an effect also in the result others wil say on the hours of darkness some birds might keep flying on a bit further but me i would only take that as a plus for the bird and if it was up to that its self but birds in sheds when others have to slog on cant be right. me i would like to see 3 transporter take all the doos in there section at a distance of 500 mile to a set point in there area and a release at the same time and then the best velocity kicks in such like a handicap race you have trap 1 giving away 150 mile of a start or 150 mile further into France and trap 2 giving 100 mile start in France and the third all then flying or sections flying 500 mile on the day and at the end of the day what would be the complaint as you are happy to let south birds time in 6 hours before the furthest got home
dal2 Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 would agree that the east side winners, would be very close to the coast, as once the birds get into a state of a trancewhen in flight, it would not surprise me one bit, IF the coastal birds have to be called out of the sky, and every bird going over there sheds will hear the rattle from there bean tins. but if your bird had to fly 150 mile less than the furthest or in the case of summer weather west winds and west flying. i am sure a wing beat from a bird flying 150 mile less or in some races flying 250 mile less I wouldn't be looking for distance Birds to win the nat what would the point be IF you lived in duns say you would not want to buy a bird from say fraserburgh if you where flying in the gold cup. where as a middle distance bird is all you require, and that to me should be taken into account when the velocities are worked out. or as some would say one out all out.late lib as that can have an effect also in the result others wil say on the hours of darkness some birds might keep flying on a bit further but me i would only take that as a plus for the bird and if it was up to that its self but birds in sheds when others have to slog on cant be right. me i would like to see 3 transporter take all the doos in there section at a distance of 500 mile to a set point in there area and a release at the same time and then the best velocity kicks in such like a handicap race you have trap 1 giving away 150 mile of a start or 150 mile further into France and trap 2 giving 100 mile start in France and the third all then flying or sections flying 500 mile on the day and at the end of the day what would be the complaint as you are happy to let south birds time in 6 hours before the furthest got homeNorth guys flyin 150miles more than the south taking 6 hours! West guys flyin 60/80 miles more?????Maybe you meant to put on the SNFC thread Danny?
JADE Posted October 6, 2012 Report Posted October 6, 2012 would agree that the east side winners, would be very close to the coast, as once the birds get into a state of a trancewhen in flight, it would not surprise me one bit, IF the coastal birds have to be called out of the sky, and every bird going over there sheds will hear the rattle from there bean tins. but if your bird had to fly 150 mile less than the furthest or in the case of summer weather west winds and west flying. i am sure a wing beat from a bird flying 150 mile less or in some races flying 250 mile less I wouldn't be looking for distance Birds to win the nat what would the point be IF you lived in duns say you would not want to buy a bird from say fraserburgh if you where flying in the gold cup. where as a middle distance bird is all you require, and that to me should be taken into account when the velocities are worked out. or as some would say one out all out.late lib as that can have an effect also in the result others wil say on the hours of darkness some birds might keep flying on a bit further but me i would only take that as a plus for the bird and if it was up to that its self but birds in sheds when others have to slog on cant be right. me i would like to see 3 transporter take all the doos in there section at a distance of 500 mile to a set point in there area and a release at the same time and then the best velocity kicks in such like a handicap race you have trap 1 giving away 150 mile of a start or 150 mile further into France and trap 2 giving 100 mile start in France and the third all then flying or sections flying 500 mile on the day and at the end of the day what would be the complaint as you are happy to let south birds time in 6 hours before the furthest got home Can I have a pint o what you are on
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