Train Youngsters Only

[sapper756]

Are there any members on here who through choice, only train some youngsters but do not race them as youngsters? and then race them as yearlings, not including late breds.

If so, how did they do?

I have heard some fanciers recently discuss this as an option for them next year, after experiencing year after year of big young bird losses.

[geordie1234]

I think this is not a problem if you are breeding from proven birds aslong as they are trained well I see no problem. Some people say they go down like snow of a dyke but I don't think that to be the case

[andy Burgess]

Are there any members on here who through choice, only train some youngsters but do not race them as youngsters? and then race them as yearlings, not including late breds.

If so, how did they do?

I have heard some fanciers recently discuss this as an option for them next year, after experiencing year after year of big young bird losses.

ive heard a few club members say this do this every year ,i dont hear of any success stories the following year tho

[geordie1234]

ive heard a few club members say this do this every year ,i dont hear of any success stories the following year tho

Many top pigeons weren't raced as younsters, I can think of two pigeons in the last 2-3 years to win the west section from the channel with the SNFC

[Guest stb-]

if there breed from the right birds and just trained you have a great chance of some good uns , wouldnt concider it with just ad lib breeding from all pairs

[geordie1234]

if there breed from the right birds and just trained you have a great chance of some good uns , wouldnt concider it with just ad lib breeding from all pairs

100% agree

[lanarkshire lad]

For me i think its best to give your ybs some racing but i dont think they need to go the bitter end.

[frank-123]

A bird with about six tosses and a comeback race from otterburn 82 miles flew the whole programme bar salisbury but managed ypres 448 miles my first bird at 08.00

another one with the six tosses but missed the comeback race flew Clermont 522 miles this year I was very confident i would get her just missed the result

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Spoke to someone recently who experimented with two teams made up of around 20 birds

 

Team 1 were raced weekly out to 300 miles as youngsters and 500 miles as yearlings

 

Team 2 were only lightly trained as youngsters and raced to around 200 miles as yearlings

 

Team 1 on the whole were by far more reliable and consistent through all stages of adulthood and a good number of them scored multiple times from long distance events.

 

Team 2 were very unreliable and all were lost with the exception of one when the big questions were asked of them as two year olds.The one survivor though went on to outshine every bird in team 1

 

Would the top bird in team 2 have still been as good if it had of been in team 1?would the numerous birds in team 1 who worked reliably have done so if they had have been in team 2?We'll never know

[ALF]

Good doos are born in my opinion it disnae matter how many races or tosses they get as yb's if they are gonnae be good racers as old birds they will be

[Guest lambrechts31]

Good doos are born in my opinion it disnae matter how many races or tosses they get as yb's if they are gonnae be good racers as old birds they will be

GOOD REPLY

[billt]

Good doos are born in my opinion it disnae matter how many races or tosses they get as yb's if they are gonnae be good racers as old birds they will be

 

You are so right there Alan, My first season was in the '60's with unraced yearlings and they won lots from my 3rd race, It's all in the genes, if they've got it you can't go wrong

[yeboah]

Good doos are born in my opinion it disnae matter how many races or tosses they get as yb's if they are gonnae be good racers as old birds they will be

100% there mate ,when there good there always good and when there bad there awful

Thank god for the 1%

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

If you only train and lightly race your youngsters you will be left with the ones that are the best,trouble is you won't have lost any/many of the ones that are worthless.

 

This is ok if you don't breed from yearlings and go on to test them.If you do take youngsters from them though whilst breeding off the good ones that are left you are also breeding off the bad ones which far outnumber the good ones.Before you know where you are you have a loft full of mediocre birds and heavy losses or illness will catch up with you at somepoint.

 

I have found this out the hard way

[dava]

i tried not racing ybs for 3 or 4 years when i moved to my present address with not much success with yearlings and heavy losses but since i started giving them 4 or 5 races ive had much better results with them as yearlings and the losses very much reduced i used to think there born good or bad but now ithink the more racing they get as youngbirdsits the making of them you cany beat education imo

[Tony C]

If you intend to race them on w/hood as yearling's I believe they have to have at least 4 races as babies. Wind up inexperienced pigeons and your asking for trouble.

[Guest IB]

Personally, I feel more confident wintering youngsters that have been trained & raced. Doesn't come with written guarantees though. Nothing worse than wintering a team of birds that disappear like snaw aff a dyke in sunshine - most when it's still under 200 miles.

[Wiley]

A chap down here in east London, but they were trained heavy upto 100 miles on a daily basis, some said they were rocking on the perches when viewing them, the following year he destroyed club, fed and combine with these yearlings. But he was a class fancier without a doubt