Ybd National

[knoxjn]

just a wee thought to see what you guys think if you were to use shorter races to to school your ybds do you think they would take say a hundred mile jump to enable you to compete in the young bird national a lot a people like steady jumps of say thirty to forty miles a time

[DJWa]

just a wee thought to see what you guys think if you were to use shorter races to to school your ybds do you think they would take say a hundred mile jump to enable you to compete in the young bird national a lot a people like steady jumps of say thirty to forty miles a time

 

the north section jump their birds over 100 miles every year into leicester

[Wiley]

Pigeons do not know the distance they are being released from, if they are fed right and healthy you can jump them any distance, all they know is they have to get home,

[big blue bar]

in 2009 we missed the first couple of races and jumped our young birds into 125 miles the birds that came home did very well for us . if they have any homing instinct they will come no matter the distance ( within reason )

[robbiedoo.]

just a wee thought to see what you guys think if you were to use shorter races to to school your ybds do you think they would take say a hundred mile jump to enable you to compete in the young bird national a lot a people like steady jumps of say thirty to forty miles a time

 

am sure we had a jump of 200 miles a couple of years ago

[Michael J Burden]

Pigeons do not know the distance they are being released from, if they are fed right and healthy you can jump them any distance, all they know is they have to get home,

spot I agree with you 101%

[Guest bernie w]

A number of years ago when racing in Peterhead club I was 1st North Sect 199th open 3948 birds SNFC YB Nat Cheltanham 375 miles jumping the bird from Perth race 90miles. Previous 2 year earlier I was 2nd North Sect SNFC 4083 birds Redditch jumping the bird from Brechin race 55miles

[andy Burgess]

A number of years ago when racing in Peterhead club I was 1st North Sect 199th open 3948 birds SNFC YB Nat Cheltanham 375 miles jumping the bird from Perth race 90miles. Previous 2 year earlier I was 2nd North Sect SNFC 4083 birds Redditch jumping the bird from Brechin race 55miles

thats an interesting post (for me) can i ask ,what preparation was involved between those shorter and longer races ?? thanks in advance.

[Guest bernie w]

thats an interesting post (for me) can i ask ,what preparation was involved between those shorter and longer races ?? thanks in advance.

The birds had 2/3 long tosses in small batches from Dundee approx 80mls and Mossmoran petro/chem plant in Fife in the weeks leading up to the nationals

[knoxjn]

some good replies guys thanks some flying into the north section by the way

[andy Burgess]

The birds had 2/3 long tosses in small batches from Dundee approx 80mls and Mossmoran petro/chem plant in Fife in the weeks leading up to the nationals

thanks for the reply Bernie .

[WulDon]

any young living creature needs educated and pigeons are no different, i certainly wouldnt throw my kids in at the deep end first time at swimming!

 

some great posts of examples of some great pigeons that have scored being jumped hundreds of miles, but this is just a fraction of a percentage of the many pigeons jumped into races over the years as opposed to the ones that never return to there homes! so statisticlly it is certainaly not a method i would adopt and imo is some what misleading to novices! educate your pigeons well and increase your success rate, imo of course!!!

[andy Burgess]

any young living creature needs educated and pigeons are no different, i certainly wouldnt throw my kids in at the deep end first time at swimming!

 

some great posts of examples of some great pigeons that have scored being jumped hundreds of miles, but this is just a fraction of a percentage of the many pigeons jumped into races over the years as opposed to the ones that never return to there homes! so statisticlly it is certainaly not a method i would adopt and imo is some what misleading to novices! educate your pigeons well and increase your success rate, imo of course!!!

thanks for your reply Wul .

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

I can't quote this as 100% fact as I don't have exact figures but think you'll more than likely find the majority of Open winners in the Yb nationals and birds in the top 1% of the result in the last ten years have been further or near enough as far as the racepoint before going to the race.

[moscow master]

I can't quote this as 100% fact as I don't have exact figures but think you'll more than likely find the majority of Open winners in the Yb nationals and birds in the top 1% of the result in the last ten years have been further or near enough as far as the racepoint before going to the race.

your right marshall cogburn the young bird nat is a come back race for some folk and as for the boys up north a would do the same jumping my doos when most of the doos batter up the east coast as for us in the west its a graveyard for your birds a wonder if you would jump your doos 100 mile and send most of your team if the convoy came up the west coast with the prevailing wind east canny see it my self but you canny help where yi live as for me al never be at it no point entering something you canny win just throwing money and your future old doos away imo

[alec guinness]

your right marshall cogburn the young bird nat is a come back race for some folk and as for the boys up north a would do the same jumping my doos when most of the doos batter up the east coast as for us in the west its a graveyard for your birds a wonder if you would jump your doos 100 mile and send most of your team if the convoy came up the west coast with the prevailing wind east canny see it my self but you canny help where yi live as for me al never be at it no point entering something you canny win just throwing money and your future old doos away imo

 

lot of sense m8,but unfortunately no sympathy!!!!!!!! just us bad doomen in the west. :lol:

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

your right marshall cogburn the young bird nat is a come back race for some folk and as for the boys up north a would do the same jumping my doos when most of the doos batter up the east coast as for us in the west its a graveyard for your birds a wonder if you would jump your doos 100 mile and send most of your team if the convoy came up the west coast with the prevailing wind east canny see it my self but you canny help where yi live as for me al never be at it no point entering something you canny win just throwing money and your future old doos away imo

 

Yep I personally would like to see the race scrapped but its not the Lewis McCalley flying club

[alec guinness]

Yep I personally would like to see the race scrapped but its not the Lewis McCalley flying club

 

maybe not scrapped lewis but tweaked,2 races sections A,D,E AND F./// and B,C and G,same day semi-national or whatever,this would create more interest. ;)

[Guest stb-]

maybe not scrapped lewis but tweaked,2 races sections A,D,E AND F./// and B,C and G,same day semi-national or whatever,this would create more interest. ;)

yes prob would john a lot of folk dont go because of as moscow said its a grave yard for loads of yb,s in the west and when you look at the winning vels in east and west theres no comparison even with an east wind

Edited July 19, 2012 by stb-

[WulDon]

I can't quote this as 100% fact as I don't have exact figures but think you'll more than likely find the majority of Open winners in the Yb nationals and birds in the top 1% of the result in the last ten years have been further or near enough as far as the racepoint before going to the race.

 

 

the success rate of fanciers from UNC terrority in the YB national is second to none and most years they take some beating, leicester is a come back race for most of these lads...

[dal2]

Was lucky enuff to be present at a top Berwick loft when he was racing ybs from their fed longest race with the UNC, 320miles,

They were raining in, quite unbelievable it was, I am shitting maself at 150 miles wae the babies!!!!!