Jannsen Pigeons Strain Will Carry On

[just ask me]

http://www.herbots.be/lcb/articles/article.asp?id=1508

 

 

UNIQUE IN THE WORLD !

 

THE GOLDEN BREEDING LOFT OF HERBOTS BROTHERS

 

IS ENRICHED WITH THE LAST 10 YOUNG BIRDS 2012 OF

 

JANSSEN BROTHERS – ARENDONK

 

The name Janssen Brothers is “hot news†these days. The reason? Well…Louis Janssen, 99 years old, and the only living person of the famous Janssen brothers, decided to stop pigeon sport. It is forever finished with the famous Janssen Brothers birds. No feather will ever fly around on the most famous pigeon loft worldwide. From now on the Janssen loft will stay empty for ever!

 

The fame of the Janssen birds is unlimited. No country in the world where pigeon fanciers did not adore the Janssen birds. This was all the result of the success which the Janssen pigeons brought by a lot of fanciers. The very close inbred family of the Janssen birds was the key to success!

 

Since decennia Filip, Miet and Jo Herbots have a very good relationship with Louis Janssen. Since years they were the best friends and since years they could always buy the best of the best by the Janssen Brothers. When Louis Janssen decided to stop with the pigeons, Jo and Miet Herbots could put the last 10 bred young birds 2012 in their basket. Although some sources declare the opposite, Louis Janssen bred in 2012 just counted 15 young birds. From those 15 young birds there are 3 young birds by Marc Geentjens and 10 young birds by Herbots Brothers. These 10 young birds have all original Janssen Brothers ring and have all an original Janssen Brothers pedigree signed by Louis Janssen himself ! (Louis Janssen signed personally only 13 of the 15 pedigrees !)

 

But that is not all….next to the 10 original Janssen Brothers young bird 2012, Miet and Jo Herbots took also the last 12 eggs back to Halle-Booienhoven. So the last young birds and the last eggs that ever saw the inside of the Janssen Brothers loft were carried very carefully to Halle-Booienhoven. This is really UNIQUE in the international pigeon sport.

 

The purchase of this nice group of Janssen Brothers birds has been again the prove that Herbots Family is always looking for the best birds worldwide!

 

Herbots…always looking for Nr. 1 !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

another smart move by the herbots :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[OLDYELLOW]

I bet every egg hatched as well

[andy Burgess]

wow ..................... that ought to put the price up .

[just ask me]

at least there will be somewhere to carry the lines forward

 

 

and there probably no better fanciers to do it than the herbots

 

 

there stock loft must be of some quality

[celtic]

I thought the last of the birds were going to be auctioned on pipa

[just ask me]

I thought the last of the birds were going to be auctioned on pipa

there on pipa now but herbots got a round of young ones and eggs before the pipa sale as it looks like the last of the jannsens birds will be sold all over the world

 

so at least the lines will be kept intact at herbots

 

 

also herbots had a good relationship with the jannsen bros looking though there stud book what they have there already is class

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

IT WILL CARRY ON UNTILL SOMETHING BETTER POPS UP.///

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

IT WILL CARRY ON UNTILL SOMETHING BETTER POPS UP.///

[Roland]

IT WILL CARRY ON UNTILL SOMETHING BETTER POPS UP.///

 

I think they are old hat now. Many better. Argueably the best, and still turning out winners at ALL distances must be Bussearts.

Heck I hear one cry, But they were mongrels, and ...' But then again so were, and are Jannsenns. Nigh all needed an outcross like every good bird. Plus many the seller, selling not what they were / are.

[Wiley]

I think they are old hat now. Many better. Argueably the best, and still turning out winners at ALL distances must be Bussearts.

Heck I hear one cry, But they were mongrels, and ...' But then again so were, and are Jannsenns. Nigh all needed an outcross like every good bird. Plus many the seller, selling not what they were / are.

 

Whatever way you look at it all these Belgian strains are mongrels there is no purity over there, purity is mainly a British thing. I agree the Janssens must be old hat now, and if you was after Janssens I am sure there's plenty better Janssen based outside of Janssens lofts, regularly winning

[celtic]

What year did the janssens race up to ? If they have,nt raced for a few years who,s to say that the birds won,t have lost any of their racing capabilities.

[geordie1234]

At the end of the day if you have a doo that wins a top position and you put it in the stock loft at say 4 year old if its producing the goods it will be there until dooms day so regardless when they last raced these are guys who are legends in there own right, I don't think for one minute the jansens would sell inferior birds. From my short experience in the sport the top guys I have had the pleasure of meeting would not let or sell an inferior bird imo

[billt]

Surely It's immaterial when birds have last raced, I haven't raced mine for the last 25yrs. including Janssen Bros. stock, ability or potential is held in the genes of the birds not whether they raced last week

[geordie1234]

Surely It's immaterial when birds have last raced, I haven't raced mine for the last 25yrs. including Janssen Bros. stock, ability or potential is held in the genes of the birds not whether they raced last week

100% agree mate

[celtic]

People slate the likes of louella by saying that some of their birds are x amount of generations away from the birds that actually raced, so what is different with the janssens pigeons ? The janssens have produced champions for many many a year so I don,t doubt that the stock that is being sold is top class, I,m nearly pointing out that some studs get slated , other sellers do not.

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Surely It's immaterial when birds have last raced, I haven't raced mine for the last 25yrs. including Janssen Bros. stock, ability or potential is held in the genes of the birds not whether they raced last week

 

luck would play a big part when trying to breed winners from birds that haven't raced in two or three generations or more

 

most of the top "strains" and "families" of birds are formed on the criteria of performance.With the birds not being raced in many generations this criteria is not there to select on so can only imagine the racing ability of the birds on the whole would deterioate.You may have luck on your side though

[geordie1234]

People slate the likes of louella by saying that some of their birds are x amount of generations away from the birds that actually raced, so what is different with the janssens pigeons ? The janssens have produced champions for many many a year so I don,t doubt that the stock that is being sold is top class, I,m nearly pointing out that some studs get slated , other sellers do not.

Agree mate! got told a story about a guy bought 6 from louella put them in a one loft and took first prize

[just ask me]

luck would play a big part when trying to breed winners from birds that haven't raced in two or three generations or more

 

most of the top "strains" and "families" of birds are formed on the criteria of performance.With the birds not being raced in many generations this criteria is not there to select on so can only imagine the racing ability of the birds on the whole would deterioate.You may have luck on your side though

 

 

agree i just think if anyone can get the winning genes from them and carry the strain into the future the herbots would be the people for me

[DJH]

Well, bidding hotting up on Pipa.

 

Some lots have closed however the rest are still going strong. These lads from China obviously have to much cash on the hip.

 

Looks like the vast majority are going to China.

[Roland]

People slate the likes of louella by saying that some of their birds are x amount of generations away from the birds that actually raced, so what is different with the janssens pigeons ? The janssens have produced champions for many many a year so I don,t doubt that the stock that is being sold is top class, I,m nearly pointing out that some studs get slated , other sellers do not.

 

True, and unfairly. Louella breds up to Grand children. And many have won week in and out, even Nationals, and Internationals.

Alf Bakers for instance that Louella sold off spring to Belguim etc. etc.

But sorry to say the Jansenns are selling decendants very far away from the Tree so to speak.

Not to say the youngster won't retrieve / bred over a few generations some wins. But the best apples are on, orfall near the tree.

I had 6 pairs of directs, as did a couple of mates. They didn't do piddley pip for any of us. 6 or 7 so to speak, and these wasn't any where near in the real 'Compositions' states.

[dal2]

True, and unfairly. Louella breds up to Grand children. And many have won week in and out, even Nationals, and Internationals.

Alf Bakers for instance that Louella sold off spring to Belguim etc. etc.

But sorry to say the Jansenns are selling decendants very far away from the Tree so to speak.

Not to say the youngster won't retrieve / bred over a few generations some wins. But the best apples are on, orfall near the tree.

I had 6 pairs of directs, as did a couple of mates. They didn't do piddley pip for any of us. 6 or 7 so to speak, and these wasn't any where near in the real 'Compositions' states.

 

WHat aboot Van Limpt De Prut and others like the Borgmans Bros? Are these birds not the same blood just like the Jannsen bros would have done theirselves in their breeding prog??

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

Getting intense now

 

averaging almost 20000 euros per bird at present

[Guest maricelbill]

do the "pure" janssen have a part to play in todays sport. i happen to be in a loft recently where the owner had children from the direct janssens he had bought in the late 80s and early 90s. real crackers they were. the guy hasn't raced for a long time however hence the question, have birds moved on? are today's birds faster?

[BLACK W F]

do the "pure" janssen have a part to play in todays sport. i happen to be in a loft recently where the owner had children from the direct janssens he had bought in the late 80s and early 90s. real crackers they were. the guy hasn't raced for a long time however hence the question, have birds moved on? are today's birds faster?

i think birds today are fed on different systems and kept healthy is the big problem in short those janssen still throwing out winners galore but there is good and bad look at the sprinters today they are a hell of a lot smaller feeding healthy fit birds win thats the key

[Guest maricelbill]

those are today's birds alan, they're alive mate. their parents are direct janssens from the 90s. what i'm wondering is if the guy went back racing with those same pigeons today would they be successful, or have pigeons gotten faster in 20 yrs. were the janssens a spent force even in the 90s when the parents of the birds i saw during the week were sent over.

 

or are they just as capable of winning. you don't hear of jansens winning today that are that close to the originals.

 

or do you?

 

 

B'