Guest bluemorning Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 what do members think about flight length in relation to tail length i have a few birds where the flights come nearly level with the tail most are busschaerts,is there any benifit in this,have been looking at pictures of champions and come in all shapes in fact some look to short,also i was wondering what difference it makes to performance,i e long or short distance,any thoughts guys and gals.
buster151 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Ive got a couple where the flights look as if they are to long and cross over each other in relation to length with tail all mine seem to be about 2 3rds of tail length
Guest bluemorning Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Ive got a couple where the flights look as if they are to long and cross over each other in relation to length with tail all mine seem to be about 2 3rds of tail length high buster what distance are your best results at,with the 2/3 length and the long length birds, cheers
andy Burgess Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 what do members think about flight length in relation to tail length i have a few birds where the flights come nearly level with the tail most are busschaerts,is there any benifit in this,have been looking at pictures of champions and come in all shapes in fact some look to short,also i was wondering what difference it makes to performance,i e long or short distance,any thoughts guys and gals.as a general rule of thumb ,tend to be sprint , longer cast pigeon -longer distance (theres always exceptions though)
buster151 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 high buster what distance are your best results at,with the 2/3 length and the long length birds, cheersmine are untested at the moment sorry I should have said this will be my 1st year so will know better then
yeboah Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 We Humans come in all shapes and sizes,and that does not make one of us better than the other.Its what's between the ears that makes the difference
tiger Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 We Humans come in all shapes and sizes,and that does not make one of us better than the other.Its what's between the ears that makes the difference how very true
peter pandy Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Are we looking at primary or secondary flights ?.
Diamond dave Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 When we say "Long Cast" or "Short Cast" I always thought that was due to the build of the pigeon i.e. the length of its back. I haven't related this to the length of its flights - perhaps they go hand in hand - Someone on here will put us right......... D.D.
victorious Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 for a good balanced pigeon the tips of the end flights should be just touching the bar across the tail.
Guest IB Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 When we say "Long Cast" or "Short Cast" I always thought that was due to the build of the pigeon i.e. the length of its back. I haven't related this to the length of its flights - perhaps they go hand in hand - Someone on here will put us right......... D.D. Thought same as yourself, talking about same pigeon being long cast (mine) long cast to me was length between tip of beak to end of the tail, but friend was actually talking about length of birds primaries, especially No10.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted January 30, 2012 Report Posted January 30, 2012 Thought same as yourself, talking about same pigeon being long cast (mine) long cast to me was length between tip of beak to end of the tail, but friend was actually talking about length of birds primaries, especially No10. When ten is long,The breeding is strong,If ten is short,Get a new sort, :emoticon-0136-giggle:
johnnyksspeedshop Posted February 23, 2012 Report Posted February 23, 2012 We Humans come in all shapes and sizes,and that does not make one of us better than the other.Its what's between the ears that makes the difference Depends on what sport Average height of a professional basketball player is 6'7" Of course there are exceptions
greenlands Posted February 23, 2012 Report Posted February 23, 2012 Just found this,an interesting few minutes. Lindsay. :animatedpigeons:
buster151 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Posted February 23, 2012 Just found this,an interesting few minutes. Lindsay. :animatedpigeons: thats a good watch makes you think
Guest Rangeview Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 When ten is long,The breeding is strong,If ten is short,Get a new sort, :emoticon-0136-giggle: Agree agree agree Short powerful wings, broard flights for speed merchants and Longer wings thinner flights for the distance birds. I really like #10 longer than #9 on all wings. Of Course thats just my preference. To each his own
maverick Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 I have sat for hours with Eddie Newcombe talking on the wings of pigeons as this was eddies theory and he was telling me about having birds put to him while at shows on panels and 9 times out of 10 he got it 100% correct on the one occation he was wrong the bird he put as the distance bird had not been raced over 300 miles so he was picking sprint ,middle , long distance birds on the wing makeup.A youngbirds wing is completly diffrent from an old bird take a picture of a youngbirds wing then take a picture of the same wing a year later and look at the diffrence in the wing
Delboy Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 When ten is long,The breeding is strong,If ten is short,Get a new sort, :emoticon-0136-giggle: HAVENT HEARD THAT SAYING FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, NICE 1 LEWIS LOL.I LIKE THE LAST 3 PRIMARIES ALMOST THE SAME LENGTH
andy Burgess Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 I have sat for hours with Eddie Newcombe talking on the wings of pigeons as this was eddies theory and he was telling me about having birds put to him while at shows on panels and 9 times out of 10 he got it 100% correct on the one occation he was wrong the bird he put as the distance bird had not been raced over 300 miles so he was picking sprint ,middle , long distance birds on the wing makeup.A youngbirds wing is completly diffrent from an old bird take a picture of a youngbirds wing then take a picture of the same wing a year later and look at the diffrence in the wingvery interesting post John . does the "make up" of a youngsters wing say how far you can send it ,despite wether its from sprint/middle/or long distance ??
maverick Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 very interesting post John . does the "make up" of a youngsters wing say how far you can send it ,despite wether its from sprint/middle/or long distance ?? The makeup of a youngbirds wing is more get up and go get away from preditors so more on the speed side
andy Burgess Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 The makeup of a youngbirds wing is more get up and go get away from preditors so more on the speed sideok , thanks , so a natural change occurs in the moult ,then the signs are there ,yes ??
maverick Posted June 6, 2012 Report Posted June 6, 2012 ok , thanks , so a natural change occurs in the moult ,then the signs are there ,yes ?? correct Andy
maverick Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 Andy take a picture of a youngbirds wing you are not going to race so as you dont loose it then after the moult take another picture of same wing and study the diffrence
eastcoaster Posted June 7, 2012 Report Posted June 7, 2012 ok , thanks , so a natural change occurs in the moult ,then the signs are there ,yes ?? Your very into all facts Pigeon Andy,good doo man me thinks ! leave no stone unturned.
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