yeboah Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 was asked what i use hope this pic comes up okWhat is the measure for 2 ltrs of water .
ovy1255 Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i use 1 level teaspoon full to two gallons of water for 24 hrs to kill all gut bacteria ,good and bad so you must use probiotics after to put back the good bacteria.the smallest tub you can get is rather large so we get it and sell it for £3 pound a scoop[comes with tub and is marked 50ml] you get loads for your 3 pound as you only use a little .you can also use as a disinfectent in the loft as well as outside the loft as a ground disinfectant.for use against foot and mouth disease 1==300for use against poultry [including avian influ] 1==300general order 1==160against bacteria 1==1000i will take a pic of insructions and post it later.
REDCHEQHEN Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i use 1 level teaspoon full to two gallons of water for 24 hrs to kill all gut bacteria ,good and bad so you must use probiotics after to put back the good bacteria.the smallest tub you can get is rather large so we get it and sell it for £3 pound a scoop[comes with tub and is marked 50ml] you get loads for your 3 pound as you only use a little .you can also use as a disinfectent in the loft as well as outside the loft as a ground disinfectant.for use against foot and mouth disease 1==300for use against poultry [including avian influ] 1==300general order 1==160against bacteria 1==1000i will take a pic of insructions and post it later.It's exactly the same as Vircon S - which is £2-£3 for a 50g sachet active ingredient is Potassium peroxymonosulphate
Guest strapper Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i havent had sickness again this year...3 years clear...what am i doing you may ask
adam owen Posted July 30, 2011 Author Report Posted July 30, 2011 what are u doing then strappper????
dal2 Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 what are u doing then strappper???? Hope its summit simple? Its rife!
sammy Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 It's exactly the same as Vircon S - which is £2-£3 for a 50g sachet active ingredient is Potassium peroxymonosulphate was thinking that myself and have used the vircon s
cemetary Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 i havent had sickness again this year...3 years clear...what am i doing you may ask Cider vinegar.
dal2 Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Why not mate, I use the cider vinegar evry year as a matter of course but dusnae stop me gettin it!!!! Had it 4yr oot o 5!!! Its a bassa for a week but if yer on top of it early then dusnae seem tae stop the performances?
eastcoaster Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 I use the cider vinegar evry year as a matter of course but dusnae stop me gettin it!!!! Had it 4yr oot o 5!!! Its a bassa for a week but if yer on top of it early then dusnae seem tae stop the performances?well your info is better than mine as i was told they need 3to4 weeks after treatment before racing, i just sent them to first race and have 3/17 home and the ones that are home are fooked and was warned after testing to give them another week ! did i listen
dal2 Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 well your info is better than mine as i was told they need 3to4 weeks after treatment before racing, i just sent them to first race and have 3/17 home and the ones that are home are fooked and was warned after testing to give them another week ! did i listen Its when ye catch them mate. Honest thats the key! There is a lot said about diffo cures but no sure that potions are the cure! No sure aboot testin either!
eastcoaster Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 was thinking that myself and have used the vircon s Virkon S works but as my last post say`s give them time to come back if the flesh is blue`ish don`t be tempted ,i am gutted that i was to blame for my disaster not the weather or bop ME .ps read brasspenning column in the homing world , even the best in the game get it .
eastcoaster Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Its when ye catch them mate. Honest thats the key! There is a lot said about diffo cures but no sure that potions are the cure! No sure aboot testin either! I agree about the testing they came back clean but was told to leave them another week !!!, WISH I HAD NOW .
cemetary Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 People are mistaking when they have it, the doos look alright on the outside, but its the inside that counts. Some are too quick on putting them back into the basket, and thats where they occur the losses.
eastcoaster Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 People are mistaking when they have it, the doos look alright on the outside, but its the inside that counts. Some are too quick on putting them back into the basket, and thats where they occur the losses. that is the lesson i learned today and will not forget it in a hurry .
cemetary Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 that is the lesson i learned today and will not forget it in a hurry . Thats guid mate, you have learnt something with them, thats still the biggest mistake by experience pigeon guys with many years in the sport.
eastcoaster Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 the biggest hurt is inside myself (i even told the missus) because i knew they were just not right ,
yeboah Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Disaster of a day,Birds have been training well and also exercising at home freely for an hour plus and eating well ,droppings OK ,let them out Thursday night and they flew really well in a very blustery east wind ,picked the strong first team one's out Friday lunchtime and gave them a light feed all being well ,Of to the marking station and my friend let the second round out to exercise telling me later they flew for one and a half hours but he noticed when called in they did not eat there full measure,when i entered the loft this morning they were sitting about as if they were dying ,i gave them a very light feed with only 4 of 60 not coming forward i then moved them to another section an hour later to prepare for race arrivals and when doing so 5 were sick ,I then said to my friend if the others are at the race-point in this condition things do not look good ,nightfall only got 3 from 17 cannot believe how quick they went down if only they had shown symptoms on Friday they would never have left the loft,one club-mate contacted it last week now mine terrible disease ,has this started since the importing of birds that have been doped to the eyeballs and over use of antibiotics,whatever it certainly f--- up a lot of hard graft
Tony C Posted July 31, 2011 Report Posted July 31, 2011 You have to look at this sickness like us having a bout of the flu, vomiting & diarrhoea subsides but your left with aching limbs and a temperature. Rest is the only cure.
lvlasked Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 i know theres a few topics on the matter but i carnt make heads and tales off it so could some one break it down for me and im a bit slow. what should i look for to see if i have it ? how should i treat it ?? and is there a way of to stop getting it again ?
OLDYELLOW Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 dark green droppings = holding corn = regurgitating corn = young bird sicknessstarve 24 hours add a hand full of garden lime to water , ensure you clean all loft up of any spoilt grain = use loft whitener to absorb wet droppings = charcoal tablet birds leave for two hours = feed dupurative with Cinnamon and live natural yoghurt and garden lime and juice of one lemon and a small amount of ground nut oil for 3 days , 2nd day ensure non are holding corn charcoal tablet again , feed on depurative when your sure there digestive systems are working you can soak some green peas in hot water and feed these for two days then revert back to your normal mix . clay pickstones are also good at neutralising the birds digestive systems . Hope this helps
geordie1234 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 i know theres a few topics on the matter but i carnt make heads and tales off it so could some one break it down for me and im a bit slow. what should i look for to see if i have it ? how should i treat it ?? and is there a way of to stop getting it again ?Dont pickle yer brain thinking about it when you dont have it!
lvlasked Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 i think i have got it thats the problem they all turned over night were fine yesaday went into the shed this morning and there was some corn on the floor not a lot so i feed them as normal today at 2o clock and now there corn over the floor and perchs and wet dark droppings
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