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dont think you can get it twice mate it would be another ailment you would have the second time

 

 

i was a little weary of this treatment mate as i thought you would need antibiotics but seen it work a number of times and did hear many great reports from top pigeon men

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ive seen people with it a few times a year but i wunder if they treating the fulll course or doing short cut to get um in the race again :emoticon-0138-thinking:

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streptacolie cure from van der sluis used it last few years and must say its the bizz u see a differance in 24 hours its £40 a tub exspensive but it works so ill be sticking with that as i can relie on it know in past ive used differant things and had no joy eg nyfuramycin and the cheep crap you can buy from corn stores does more halm than good i say .but i would highley reccomend van der sluis products to any one

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what are people using for yb sickness :emoticon-0138-thinking:

 

Hi

Been told that Enteron and Adenosan given

together works

Enteron in water 3ml to a litre

Adenosan on the food

Cheers

Homer 49

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been told about this treatment for young bird sickness, and it is supposed to work....

 

The 3 steps will not stop young bird sickness coming into your loft, but it will 100% clear young bird sickness from your birds in under 30 HOURS.

 

First off how do our young birds catch the sickness, at one time you would catch young bird sickness when you mixed your birds with others when training, or the first or second race, they come back from the trainer or race and by Tuesday pm they are being sick, and it takes 2 or 3 weeks before they can be race again, now fanciers are catching sickness long before they are mixed with other birds I personally believe the sickness is air born and it can now spread just by your pigeons flying with other youngsters when you let them out. Yours come back from flying with 5 or 6 youngsters from another loft and land with yours, this could be another way,

ONE of the first signs is when they land after a fly you will see 1 or 2 pecking at the floor, picking up bits of wood or plastic or anything the birds can or pick up, the young birds seem not to know what to do with themselves, when you call them to come in the shed 1 or 2 just will not go in and you know they are hungry they seem to not know the way to go into the shed. And when they do go in they eat for England, it starts off with 1 or 2 and in the end you have up to 60% of the birds acting this way these are a couple of signs to look for.

 

Also when you let them out you open the doors or trap and they just look at you, they just don't want to fly, if you chase them out they fly for about 15 mins, also they tend to go off their food slightly, tend to take longer to clear their feed.

In the mornings handle 6 to 10 birds each day to find out if they have corn still left in crop this is the last sign before young birds sickness, so keep a close eye on them.

 

I will tell you now the 3 steps will only work if you have got young bird sickness, just because birds have corn in crop in the morning, this does not mean they have the sickness. If you have birds that are not digesting their corn at all, then you can use the 3 steps.

Lets say you feed your young birds Monday AM and by Tues AM, they still have corn in crop then yes use the 3 steps.

 

PRODUCTS YOU WILL NEED =

 

There are 2 products you need to purchase, 1 from the supermarket first is SODA CRYSTAL.

The second product from a chemist is MEDICINAL CHARCOAL TABLETS, which contains 100 tablets cut in half this will give you 200 doses, you give half per young bird (make sure you buy tablets not capsules they are more expensive) I buy mine from BOOTS £2.99 for 100 tablets. They work on old birds too, if they are having problems with vomiting.

 

RIGHT THIS IS WHAT YOU DO =

 

If the young birds retain the corn for more than 24 hours or being sick, the following will be sufficient to treat 20 birds so you will have to make up as required:

ADD 5 teaspoons of soda crystal and 100 mls of warm water and stir till dissolved, it doesn't matter if you put 10 teaspoons you can not overdose with the amount.

So do not worry it will not hurt them, you need a syringe to syringe 5 ml down each birds throat, this will make them vomit up all the corn in the crop.

Leave them for half hour, if they have not been sick syringe 5 ml more down each birds throat you must make them SICK, the soda will sterilize their crop.

When they are sick feel the crop you might have to syringe them 1 more time, you must make sure the crop is completely empty of all corn, once you make sure the crop is empty let them rest for half hour then give them half of charcoal pill each.

When you are making them sick place them in a pen with grids or upturn a crate so they can not pick up corn when they are sick, OR you will have to watch them.

REMEMBER this works in seconds as soon as you syringe the 5 mls down the throat they will vomit straight away.

 

The next part is the most important once you give half of charcoal pill you must not feed for 26 HOURS please do not feed THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT.

Now when you feed you must only give them DEPURITIVE or DIET and you only give each bird quarter ounce only NO more that day.

The reason for the half pill is it goes through them and cleans them through from crop to back end.

And you only give them a light feed to start with the next day to start the crop moving, give birds quarter ounce depuritive or diet mix late evening. On second day, half ounce depuritive. On third day 50% depuritive 50% corn, once AM and the same late PM.

Next day feed back to normal, young bird sickness gone, you must follow instruction VERY IMPORTANT.

 

SO THE 3 STEPS ARE =

1 - SYRINGE 5ML DOWN THROAT TILL SICK

2 - HALF CHARCOAL PILL FOR EACH BIRD

3 - DO NOT FEED FOR 26 HOURS

 

From now on you do not have to worry about young bird sickness you now have the tools to deal with it.

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i`ve got 3 rounds of ybs and all had it , the brother told me they used to give Virkon `s in the drinker for 2 days , so gave it to my 1st round and 2nd round ,in the mean time had ordered stuff for it from belg , within 4 days the birds appetite was amazing , the 3rd round had the charcoal and it works but not as quick JMO.

Vircon s 1 level tea spoon to 1 gallon of water for 2 days don`t worry they don`t drink much of it .

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Regarding Yb sickness I had never experienced it in forty years of racing until 2 years ago after being gifted some youngsters and they brought it with them ,treated them with an unknown powder which worked straight away ,last year week after first race they came down with it again this time i split the team into 2 sections and treated one with the powder as the year previous and the others with cinnamon that i bought at the Co-op for pennies and it cured them every bit as good . Read a post on here where the vet stated the virus could lie dormant in the dust in the loft for a year so i pressure washed the loft from top to bottom ,so far so good time will tell ,Spoke to a very good fancier at last years national presentation and when i asked him about Yb sickness he told me to inoculate the youngsters at 5 days old for PMV and Para typhus and i would not have any more health issues with them ,if i encounter problems this year will definitely follow that procedure next .

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mine inoculated against both still got it as soon as they went on the transporter for training-antibacterial in water for 24hrs no feed for 24 hrs then probiotics and multivits hope this helps ,stuff i use is good £3 for 50grams lasts ages treats bacterial ,fungus,viruses yeast and mould.

defra approved against diseases of poultry[inc avian influenza]

foot and mouth

sure you got the picture

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Starve for two full days.give cidre vinegar in water at double the dose then give light seeds until some consistency in droppings show.

 

 

Any youngsters that dont respond Give them the BUCKET!!

 

Simple.

 

 

DAVID

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