W.D. Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 sanny watson laurieston timed at 13.11 well done sanny Well done Sanny.Is that the 1st NW bird?
aye ready Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Well done Sanny.Is that the 1st NW bird?1st one i've heard of but could be others
knoxjn Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 seems like a very strange race unless guys are not reporting them well done to all those that timed on what seems to have turned into a real hard one
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Posted June 25, 2011 The SNRPC seem to be getting on a bit better from Reims considering the size of their convoy.Still not exactly flooding in by any stretch of the imagination.
DJWa Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 well done to mike patterson timing in at 14.32 into stonehaventhats the 1st doo in the north section tahat ive heard of
Delboy Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Well done Derek and Johnny, great bird . Also, congrats to Sandy watson.
Blue Tooner Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 well done to mike patterson timing in at 14.32 into stonehaventhats the 1st doo in the north section tahat ive heard of Well done to Mike, a very brave bird :emoticon-0137-clapping:
sapper756 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Only 25 birds reported timed, on SNFC official sitehttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif
Guest bigda Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 a waste of good diesel, euro tunnel lads 000.2% wise up. have been tell you all for the last 3 years yer game has ended. 3 races and yer birds have gone
tiger Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 a waste of good diesel, euro tunnel lads 000.2% wise up. have been tell you all for the last 3 years yer game has ended. 3 races and yer birds have gonedont often agree with you danny but it looks like ur RIGHT
allmac Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 sanny watson laurieston timed at 13.11 well done sanny well done sandy hope more turn up for all
birdie Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Thinking it will be very close between Davy Elliot vel.approx 1193ypm and John McNeil 1192 approx to win this. Am I wrong with my calculations? i think mr and mrs elliot will get it by 8 yards
Jumbo Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 well done to mike patterson timing in at 14.32 into stonehaventhats the 1st doo in the north section tahat ive heard of well done Bluedoo very gallant bird
sapper756 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Another 2 Fife doos reportedhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0137-clapping.gif G B Hunter Dunfermline 15.54J Doig Cardenden 16.33
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Posted June 25, 2011 a waste of good diesel, euro tunnel lads 000.2% wise up. have been tell you all for the last 3 years yer game has ended. 3 races and yer birds have gone Obviously theres lots of folk dissapointed,myself included,but think your being a bit disrespectful towards the pigeons that are in bigda. Theres been bad races in the past and there will be so in the future but don't think national racing has ended. There are changes that need to take place though in order to get it back on its feet again in terms of birdage and popularity.
W.D. Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Any ideas why the birds are not turning up, what do you think has stopped them?These doos from both nats are the best that our countrymen could send, and on a normal day the majority would be home by now? I am in no form taking any credit away from the birds that are home, these are super pigeons up there well within the expected time, but as for the remaining poor wee buggers where can they be?
Guest IB Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Please remember this thread is about SNFC Messac race. And as most folks are still waiting on birds, its just news of other birds coming home that's wanted.. I've taken out 2 posts which are irrelevant to both subjects.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted June 25, 2011 Author Report Posted June 25, 2011 Aye I don't really buy into all this K index theory stuff etc etc either. Apparently returns,injuries and quality of races as far as following up the winners is concerned are the worst they have ever been. Its also widely known that bird of prey figures are at their highest since the industrialisation of Britain.Read John Harwood's piece in the 2010 stud book and he sums it up better than anybody I've heard. Still feel the SNFC needs a bit of reshuffling as well though.Firstly they should pick a race programme and stick to it for at least a few seasons.I feel they should focus ONLY on channel racing dropping all inland races. How much money do they actually have in the bank???If its as much as I've been told this could be the best weapon they have at their disposal to improve race entries and quality of racing.I think the way subscriptions are paid should be changed.You should only pay for the races you enter and should be allowed to enter as long as you are a member of a union(any).I think they should lower birdages short term and introduce prize money to the first three in each section perhaps at a split of 500/300/200 for the Gold Cup and 300/150/50 for the other races.As far as I'm lead to believe this money is sitting there doing NOTHING when it could be going back into races and benefitting the members not only at National level but at federation level as well. Anyway I'm going back out to pray for a doo
Guest bigda Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Aye I don't really buy into all this K index theory stuff etc etc either. Apparently returns,injuries and quality of races as far as following up the winners is concerned are the worst they have ever been. Its also widely known that bird of prey figures are at their highest since the industrialisation of Britain.Read John Harwood's piece in the 2010 stud book and he sums it up better than anybody I've heard. Still feel the SNFC needs a bit of reshuffling as well though.Firstly they should pick a race programme and stick to it for at least a few seasons.I feel they should focus ONLY on channel racing dropping all inland races. How much money do they actually have in the bank???If its as much as I've been told this could be the best weapon they have at their disposal to improve race entries and quality of racing.I think the way subscriptions are paid should be changed.You should only pay for the races you enter and should be allowed to enter as long as you are a member of a union(any).I think they should lower birdages short term and introduce prize money to the first three in each section perhaps at a split of 500/300/200 for the Gold Cup and 300/150/50 for the other races.As far as I'm lead to believe this money is sitting there doing NOTHING when it could be going back into races and benefitting the members not only at National level but at federation level as well. Anyway I'm going back out to pray for a doo yes agree use this money to sort the problem out, pay the pipers they will call the tunes
yeboah Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Any ideas why the birds are not turning up, what do you think has stopped them?These doos from both nats are the best that our countrymen could send, and on a normal day the majority would be home by now? I am in no form taking any credit away from the birds that are home, these are super pigeons up there well within the expected time, but as for the remaining poor wee buggers where can they be?As in any race good or bad the leaders are always on time as they were in this one ,the others given yesterdays weather conditions should then have been clocked at regular intervals which just did not happen ,I think the last pigeon clocked last night was in the airdrie area about eight thirty leaving plenty of time for others to be timed before dark strongly suggesting they never crossed the channel ,if they had they were raced enough to negotiate working there way up through England and given today's disastrous returns with the good weather in England they are well out of striking distance jmo
Bluedoo Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 well done Bluedoo very gallant bird Cheers lads. Just about stopped shaking. Its a long time since I've felt like that clocking.
Blue Tooner Posted June 25, 2011 Report Posted June 25, 2011 Cheers lads. Just about stopped shaking. Its a long time since I've felt like that clocking. Brilliant, drinks will be supplied by you on Blackpool Bus
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