Why Why Why - Why these losses?

[alex wight]

In this day and age of technology, why are we not able to work with each other when it comes to liberating our pigeons. Its clearly apparent that some weekends have been disastrous, and by what is being said on here, its partly due to feds liberating north and south/east and west of each other, resulting in mass clashing. There must be a way for all feds, and i mean ALL feds, to record there lib points for the season. Yes some are in the BHW but we need it to be a MUST to submit your race programme to a central point where all race controllers can access. Surely if this was to happen we can help stop all this possible clashing. Weve got to help our birds the best we can.

 

Rant over, lol.

 

alex.

[Guest tichhowitt]

i agree totally a bit of common sense and we could all cut down losses because that is y we dropping so many at the moment clashing jmo

[Daisymay]

This sugestion would be to easy.

[greenlands]

Your right to rant Alex,it's gone on long enough and wants sorted.As you say the technology's there it just wants used.

Lindsay

[JADE]

the technology has been there for years. its called a telephone. why feds going in opposite directions persist in liberating 20 or 30 miles apart at around the same time beats me

[cemetary]

Feds have been liberating like this for how long now, to stop awe the clashing etc, its aboot time they got the gether ti git times for liberating fixed oot,

[Guest Davy Fleming]

All that is fine if the weather is ok for the whole of the day but what happens when you only get a window for an hour or so ??? There is NO CHANCE of this working . I totally agree with your thoughts by the way and know where you are coming from

[JohnQuinn]

Most of the controllers know fine where the other feds around them are are sitting, and what the Scheduled time of lib is. Problem is far too many have the "i'm alright Jack" attitude when it comes to co operating with the others. I have heard many many times of agreed lib times being ignored just minutes after they were agreed to with the feds liberating close by.

One exception to this practice is our controller who has delayed liberating on SEVERAL occasions over the years to give other feds a clear run through, pity they are NOT all like Jim.

[slim45]

finished up with 31 down out of 45 to say disapointed is a under statment this is the worst race of my intire live flying pigeons ie 40 years the race controler has done a fantastic job getting it wright this year but i think got it wrong this time with north road libiating just up the road at the same time but he is only human and we all make mistakes gutted

[Guest stb-]

All that is fine if the weather is ok for the whole of the day but what happens when you only get a window for an hour or so ??? There is NO CHANCE of this working . I totally agree with your thoughts by the way and know where you are coming from

SO DO THEY JUST ALL GO AT THE SAME TIME DAVY AND HAVE A MONSTER CLASH IN THE WINDOW OFF GOOD WEATHER THAT WOULD PROB DO MORE DAMAGE THAN THE WEATHER WOULD ,

 

LIKE SOME HAVE SAID THERES NORTH AND SOUTH ROADERS LESS THAN 20 MILES FROM ONE ANOTHER ALL GOING AT SAME TIME THIS MORNING TOTAL MADDNESS

 

NAE POINT IN BLAMIN HAWK WHEN THEY LET THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN

[Guest stb-]

finished up with 31 down out of 45 to say disapointed is a under statment this is the worst race of my intire live flying pigeons ie 40 years the race controler has done a fantastic job getting it wright this year but i think got it wrong this time with north road libiating just up the road at the same time but he is only human and we all make mistakes gutted

THINK THE PROB IS A LOT ARE NOT AT RACEPOINTS THEY SHOULD BE AND SOME ARE NOT EVEN IN THE BOOK AS TO WHERE THEY ARE

[chrissyboy1]

Just think there is to much traffic down the east coast,soon need traffic lights

[johno]

why did the birds at berwick not interfere with the wetherby pigeons of midlotian and lanarkshire? liberated at 6.30 and 7.15am. did they hide and wait for the glasgow/renfrew pigeons and then entice them to go south. does not add up.

[ALF]

why did the birds at berwick not interfere with the wetherby pigeons of midlotian and lanarkshire? liberated at 6.30 and 7.15am. did they hide and wait for the glasgow/renfrew pigeons and then entice them to go south. does not add up.

 

DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PETER BUT I KNOW A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IS STILL WAITING ON 11 FROM 19 SENT TO THE RACE TODAY

[Guest stb-]

why did the birds at berwick not interfere with the wetherby pigeons of midlotian and lanarkshire? liberated at 6.30 and 7.15am. did they hide and wait for the glasgow/renfrew pigeons and then entice them to go south. does not add up.

would the wetherby pigeons not be nearly a 100 miles further down the road than berwick , and would be all on there way and split up bye tha time as there would be a few hour in time before they would overlap anyway . Think you will possibilly finf that the north roaders just up the road from bishop aukland who libbed at 7.15

 

mae have been more of a problem , seems none know each other is in the viccinity

[Deadbeat Donkey]

Because some of them don't seem to care anymore!I think the bigger Feds with bigger birdage should give a little more consideration to the smaller Feds who don't send as many pigeons. Also they should keep their word if they say they will hold their birds to let others have a clear run through then change it and liberate.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Deadbeat Donkey

[billy_g]

i only went to 1 y/bird race this season coldstream 2 with he n/west fed,if you look at the libs on this web site for that day

quite a few were away within half an hour of each other, some birds may turn on being lib or clash with other birds being lib

by other feds going all directions into central scotland,why not glasgow feds go all together,lanarkshire all together,n/west central,midland the same lib, fife dundee aberdeen doo,s the same. im sure this could work if all feds got together and gave it a go

if we dont well y/bird racing is finished for us small team boys.

this will happen on day as we all know no bugger is joining our sport people leaving passing away ect

it all makes sence,maybe one day it will

billy

[Guest stb-]

Because they don't care anymore! At the end of the day the pigeon's welfare should come first. Its no good letting birds go and hoping for the best. Unless race controllers start talking to each other alot more, you will get this week in week out.

apart from not talking the biggest prob i see hear is a lot dont even know there are other birds near them and maby going bye the list they have currently , some are not on it and due to racing this year some are not at the race points stated

 

very hard for race controllers to allow for this type off thing

 

they can only contact the ones they know

[frank-123]

the biggest problem is the west and central feds of scotland are crowding an already busy route the birds should be moved back west m6 route

from glasgow to cumbria the route must be cleared no if buts or maybe's the time to step forward is now

[Deadbeat Donkey]

My birds were at Berwick today liberated at 7.15 to fly south to North Yorkshire. From what I can work out there were Scottish birds liberated at Bishop Auckland,Consett,Thirsk and one or two others from 6-30 onwards after they said they would hold theirs untill ours got past so I think there must how been some clashing somewhere.

Edited August 23, 2010 by Deadbeat Donkey

[JADE]

why do they all have to go up at 6.30 - 7.00 in the morning. its clear until 8.00 pm why dont the north road lib early one week and south road the next. leave at least 2 hours between north and south roaders. and if the weather is going to change wait until sunday

[Deadbeat Donkey]

Easier said than done!

[Guest stb-]

My birds were at Berwick today liberated at 7.15 to fly south to North Yorkshire. From what I can work out there were Scottish birds liberated at Bishop Auckland,Consett,Thirsk and one or two others from 6-30 onwards so they must have clashed somewhere. I have only got 10 out of 16 which is better than other members (5/21). I cannot workout why our pigeons were liberated when the Scottish birds would out number ours by 10 to 1, if they did clash they are only going to go one way. There needs to be more talking between race controllers to stop this from happening every week or the amount of birds lost will increase week by week untill there is none left to send.

MOST OF THESE POINTS ARE 50 TO 80 MLS FROM BERWICK THEY SHOULD BE WELL ON THE WAY AND SPLIT UP BYE THAT TIME FROM THAT DISTANCE

[Guest Davy Fleming]

Robert, My point was that if you only have a short window the big Feds are going to go no matter what anyone says because all they are interested in is getting there birds liberated. Do you think they spend a few hundred Quid and going to a site with there 20,000 doos then say Oh the Almond Valley with there 2000 doos are going at a time which means if we don't go at that time we will have to go home because of the weather . Yes, you are right about a Mass Lib and the damage it would cause but it is really an impossible situation and as someone says the traffic is now very busy down that side . Also the guys from Cumbria have already told us it is a NO NO from that area as well due to the amount of BOP. BOTTOM LINE IS WE CAN DEBATE THIS FROM NOW TO DOOMSDAY AND NEVER GET AN ANSWER THAT WILL KEEP EVERYONE HAPPY. You know what it's like going to even a club meeting and the arguments that arise from time to time so how do you think Clubs and Feds north and South of the border are going to agree . An extremely difficult problem where there are no real answer I'm afraid. Know one thing the BOP is more than a massive problem and if we got rid of some of them to respectable numbers then maybe we can all go forward a bit

 

And also the BHW is never up to date as someone states so you can't win

[airdrie2]

fairly new to sport but looking what is said on here and what is said at clubs most pigeon men seem to be self centered towards there clubs & feds and say stuff the rest it is all one sport and if all these grudges and egoes arent washed away 10 years and sport wont be here