SHU and ETS

[hotrod]

check post no 42 (thick plonker) and its aimed at me , ps you should be worried .

[Guest G.Drysdale + son]

Calm down guy's

[hotrod]

Calm down guy's

 

mr drysdale i have posted my opinions on here thats my perogative ,they are fair points and all i get back is running time/ru to the post office, thick plonker,because i havent ets and think the rules are not clear enough, i takes a lot to rile me mate and by f@@k im riled , i have also been to lofts where the pad is before the trap and pointed this out ,what do they do build a frame round it like an open box lying on its side and then they say its inside my loft. CRAZY. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT,  WHY cant there be a rule that say's the bird must enter the loft to be clocked WHY , THEN THE RULES WOULD BE CLEAR FOR EVERONE(NO GREY AREA'S), THE ETS USERS WOULD STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER CONVENTIONAL CLOCKS.  (ONLY MY OPINION)

[ALF]

Well everyone in my club has Unikon ETS and i would still want the pads to be sealed in place as we have done since we got them...

[Guest G.Drysdale + son]

 

mr drysdale i have posted my opinions on here thats my perogative ,they are fair points and all i get back is running time/ru to the post office, thick plonker,because i havent ets and think the rules are not clear enough, i takes a lot to rile me mate and by f@@k im riled , i have also been to lofts where the pad is before the trap and pointed this out ,what do they do build a frame round it like an open box lying on its side and then they say its inside my loft. CRAZY. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT,  WHY cant there be a rule that say's the bird must enter the loft to be clocked WHY , THEN THE RULES WOULD BE CLEAR FOR EVERONE(NO GREY AREA'S), THE ETS USERS WOULD STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER CONVENTIONAL CLOCKS.  (ONLY MY OPINION)

I use an STB & to be honest don't want ETS system for me it takes away part of the sport just think it's great getting your doo in taking off the race rubber & timing in manually.

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

mr drysdale i have posted my opinions on here thats my perogative ,they are fair points and all i get back is running time/ru to the post office, thick plonker,because i havent ets and think the rules are not clear enough, i takes a lot to rile me mate and by f@@k im riled , i have also been to lofts where the pad is before the trap and pointed this out ,what do they do build a frame round it like an open box lying on its side and then they say its inside my loft. CRAZY. AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT,  WHY cant there be a rule that say's the bird must enter the loft to be clocked WHY , THEN THE RULES WOULD BE CLEAR FOR EVERONE(NO GREY AREA'S), THE ETS USERS WOULD STILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER CONVENTIONAL CLOCKS.  (ONLY MY OPINION)

 

Stuart if their are fanciers out there that you no off and have pads out on top of the landing board well then it is your duty as a fellow pigeon fancier to report these fanciers to the governing body, time to name and shame these guys because i'm not having cheats in the sport.  

cheers

Gareth

 

 

[aye ready]

Well everyone in my club has Unikon ETS and i would still want the pads to be sealed in place as we have done since we got them...

 

me aswell my pads are still sealed in from last year and they'll not be coming out.Think u can still make it a club rule as long as the majority of members agree to it

[hotrod]

I use an STB & to be honest don't want ETS system for me it takes away part of the sport just think it's great getting your doo in taking off the race rubber & timing in manually.

 

i use a t3 and i agree with taking away part of the sport for me too, but i dont care who has ets just that they dont (cheat) others out of positions in the club/fed  by having the pads outside the loft,  as i know they DO.

[harky]

All this over nothing , remember you still have to get a bird to clock it  

[JADE]

 

i use a t3 and i agree with taking away part of the sport for me too, but i dont care who has ets just that they dont (cheat) others out of positions in the club/fed  by having the pads outside the loft,  as i know they DO.

 

well they wouldnt get away with it in my club. i agree with gareth i think you need to expose whoever is doing this.

[hotrod]

 

Stuart if their are fanciers out there that you no off and have pads out on top of the landing board well then it is your duty as a fellow pigeon fancier to report these fanciers to the governing body, time to name and shame these guys because i'm not having cheats in the sport.  

cheers

Gareth

 

Im not going to SHOP anyone as they dont fly against me , but one or two on here has admitted it. if i could draw a diagram and post it i would to point out where the pads are in relation to the confinds of the loft

 

 

[Guest]

 

me aswell my pads are still sealed in from last year and they'll not be coming out.Think u can still make it a club rule as long as the majority of members agree to it

 

mine are still sealed in too

but i think the rules were changed with fanciers in plots in mind

because of the risk of there pads being stolen

unikon pads are now £110 each

[Guest]

Im not going to SHOP anyone as they dont fly against me , but one or two on here has admitted it. if i could draw a diagram and post it i would to point out where the pads are in relation to the confinds of the loft

 

 

is this ok and legal ?

my pads are in sputnik traps hung on sliding doors with bobs flush with the doors

they have to drop into the sputnik to register

ive a blakes loft with a overhang whitch covers the traps

one or 2 have been known to jump back out but never had it hapen on a race day

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Im not going to SHOP anyone as they dont fly against me , but one or two on here has admitted it. if i could draw a diagram and post it i would to point out where the pads are in relation to the confinds of the loft

 

 

Stuart wrong attitude you have there, is it a case of i'm all right jack stuff the rest of you. there was me thinking that we were all in this together to enjoy and love our pigeons. :(

 

with that statement your condoning that it is ok to cheat.

 

 

 

[maverick]

Im not going to SHOP anyone as they dont fly against me , but one or two on here has admitted it. if i could draw a diagram and post it i would to point out where the pads are in relation to the confinds of the loft

 

 

here we go again i dont use it but those that do are cheating with it    we have heard it all before if you know people are cheating do the right thing as they may not fly against you but they are flying against others

[aye ready]

 

mine are still sealed in too

but i think the rules were changed with fanciers in plots in mind

because of the risk of there pads being stolen

unikon pads are now £110 each

 

to steal mine they would have to break into the lofts first,then make a helluva racket wi a hammer to get the pads out so all i can say is the pads on plots must be too easily accesable (what)

[hotrod]

 

Stuart wrong attitude you have there, is it a case of i'm all right jack stuff the rest of you. there was me thinking that we were all in this together to enjoy and love our pigeons. :(

 

with that statement your condoning that it is ok to cheat.

 

 

NO NO NO NO GARETH IF THERES ONE THING I CANT STAND IS CHEATING MATE.  a few months back a guy on here put up a short video of his birds trapping , he dropped the flap with the pad on it and when the birds went towards the trap they were clocked , BUT THEY WERE'NT IN THE LOFT WHEN REGISTERING THERE IS MORE LIKE HIM OUT THERE. NEXT TIME IM DOWN YOUR WAY ILL SHOW YOU WERE THESE PADS ARE , MAYBE YOU WILL SAY IM WRONG , AND THAT IT WAS OK WERE THESE PADS ARE WHO KNOW'S. AND TO THE OTHER GUY WHO POSTED I THINK YOUR OK THE PAD IS INSIDE YOUR SPUTNIK THEY DROP THROUGH ONTO THE PAD , OK SOME CAN WANGLE THERE WAY BACK OUT AS IS ANY OLD TYPE TRAP , THEY CAN SQUEEZE OUT  THE SMALLEST OF HOLES (AT GREAT SPEED)

 

 

[hotrod]

 

here we go again i dont use it but those that do are cheating with it    we have heard it all before if you know people are cheating do the right thing as they may not fly against you but they are flying against others

I NEVER SAID THOSE THAT USE ETS ARE CHEATING  > I HAVE SAID THAT THERE IS (SOME ) THAT BEND THE RULES  to me bending rules is CHEATING.

 

 

[maverick]

NO NO NO NO GARETH IF THERES ONE THING I CANT STAND IS CHEATING MATE.  a few months back a guy on here put up a short video of his birds trapping , he dropped the flap with the pad on it and when the birds went towards the trap they were clocked , BUT THEY WERE'NT IN THE LOFT WHEN REGISTERING THERE IS MORE LIKE HIM OUT THERE. NEXT TIME IM DOWN YOUR WAY ILL SHOW YOU WERE THESE PADS ARE , MAYBE YOU WILL SAY IM WRONG , AND THAT IT WAS OK WERE THESE PADS ARE WHO KNOW'S. AND TO THE OTHER GUY WHO POSTED I THINK YOUR OK THE PAD IS INSIDE YOUR SPUTNIK THEY DROP THROUGH ONTO THE PAD , OK SOME CAN WANGLE THERE WAY BACK OUT AS IS ANY OLD TYPE TRAP , THEY CAN SQUEEZE OUT  THE SMALLEST OF HOLES (AT GREAT SPEED)

 

if the bird has not entered the loft by which ever means it has to it MUST enter inside the loft before it crosses the pad if the bird is clocked before it enters the loft this is cheating

 

[naedoos]

NO NO NO NO GARETH IF THERES ONE THING I CANT STAND IS CHEATING MATE.  a few months back a guy on here put up a short video of his birds trapping , he dropped the flap with the pad on it and when the birds went towards the trap they were clocked , BUT THEY WERE'NT IN THE LOFT WHEN REGISTERING THERE IS MORE LIKE HIM OUT THERE. NEXT TIME IM DOWN YOUR WAY ILL SHOW YOU WERE THESE PADS ARE , MAYBE YOU WILL SAY IM WRONG , AND THAT IT WAS OK WERE THESE PADS ARE WHO KNOW'S. AND TO THE OTHER GUY WHO POSTED I THINK YOUR OK THE PAD IS INSIDE YOUR SPUTNIK THEY DROP THROUGH ONTO THE PAD , OK SOME CAN WANGLE THERE WAY BACK OUT AS IS ANY OLD TYPE TRAP , THEY CAN SQUEEZE OUT  THE SMALLEST OF HOLES (AT GREAT SPEED)

 

 

 

 

 

Stuart, there's nothing in the rules to say the birds have to remain in the loft after they're timed in!!

 

As long as the bird has entered the loft to time in then it's okay.

 

I agree with you that pads shouldn't be under landing boards etc, but the type of people that feel they have to do this would just find something else to cheat at if you got this particular problem sorted out.

 

 

 

[hotrod]

mav as i have said i wish i could put on a diagram to show you all were a pad should/should not be . then we could debate it properly, but what im saying and whats being read is maybe two different things. i think we'll leave it for now until something can be sorted. thanx.

[Blue Tooner]

As I said in another post about ets trapping, if the rules were "the pigeon must be captive before it can be recorded on an ets sensor" Their could be no arguments, just my opinion. I use ets and my birds must drop inside the sputnik before going over the sensor pad. If everyone was using ets then it wouldn't matter so much.

cheers

[hotrod]

As I said in another post about ets trapping, if the rules were "the pigeon must be captive before it can be recorded on an ets sensor" Their could be no arguments, just my opinion. I use ets and my birds must drop inside the sputnik before going over the sensor pad. If everyone was using ets then it wouldn't matter so much.

cheers

 

yes mate spot on , all i have been saying and have been saying on many ets threads that the rules should be clear so everyone knows the score. the second part my answer is freedom of choice mate. its my choice to use a t3 and your choice to use ets, great , no problem.

[ALF]

I used the RV Woodcraft Unikon ETS trap last year for my y/b's in good faith it was ok to use but now i'm not so sure and i think i'll be chaning it this year before the y/b racing starts :-/

[just ask me]

is the rule that the pad and bird has to be in confines of loft or bird  im really not too sure  ;D as regards birds not being able to get back out again don't make any sense what if i was to race on open door bird comes in i grab him place him over ets pad clocked but sure he can fly back out the door again  i know ths might sound extreme but is it any different to some one having a landing board then a a square hole is which would be within the loft as landing board is outside  where birds walk into where pad is but they never reach bob wires something spooks them they go back out again they would have been within confines of loft