His set up must be very deceiving, talking to quiet a few people who personally been there there's a loft no one goes near or have been shown in. A certain group of fanciers bought 40 the other year for 250 euros a piece. They sold six on pipa recently for 24k. Leo HEREMANS is a gold mine, one fancier went to Leo 6 years ago and could have paid 50 euros a piece he wasn't impressed and left them, but as a business perspective it was a bad decision, how much would they have been worth now?