Roland

The RPRA can well afford the £30,000 top fee. Like I said before, when they put out feelers the general member were, and are, still dead set against it. Quite a backlash...’what waste our money when there must be some wealthy.... etc. that can do it free etc'. 30000 members levied a little £ within their subs eh! PR Firms are professional institutes. Have great assets etc. No concern, government, supermarket, in fact any concern would dream of not employing one as long as it could afford it! Why do so many still believe that a White charger carrying a knight in white armour is coming over the hilltop. Fanciers that they feel have the means to do so are NOT able. I wouldn't expect Renaldo to be a whiz cricket - he may be- no more that I think Gary Sobers would have won the Football world cup. It is fields and horses for courses. And I personally think it's audacious to think that a Company, or successful businessman should be expected to put his company, livelihood in jeopardy trying to do freebies for the masses. Never going to happen, and that's a fact, sadly most can't wake up to that fact! They should all - yes there maybe the rare odd case why not - yes put their hands in their pocket and splash out a fiver each £150,000 or nigh double. But they won't so time I and a few others woke up and state, well we will get the MOTION going! We will shame those feeding BOP but not willing to put a little quiddy into the coffers! It makes no sense, but the quicker others and I, accept that, the quicker some of us will get off my backside and do something. Won't be a sport in 10 years or less. This great sport, which we are CUSTONIANS of, yes our responsibility will be lost forever. Just the one loft races.... Time my other pet is put into motion. With a PR Firm on board, Corporate racing to one loft races where the Feds are responsible for, hence the expenditure there is also put into our coffers... and many off shoot things too happen also.... but lets start once and for all the first step needed for any trip of a thousand miles. P.s. Forget the RPRA etc.... their form lacks a lot of relevance. I also take on board Albears post, and as he knows we agree on a lot.

Well done mucker.

:-/ :o Need that pint or two now eh!

Could we be Toxin poison. Flew and used her muscles as Fuel units. Linseed and light seed feed and plenty of rest. You know whether it is flown out or not .... if it isn't wasn't then get a mate to hold her so the Tail is facing you! The very end flight of each side of the tail now wants pulling out. That is oppostie sides. No! We don't know the whys and wherefores, only that it does works. If your bird isn't up and running great withi the week.... then it is

I know.... Chriss would have it any other way I hear Lol.

Personally I think I would auction of and help the POB (For those that don't know P.O.B. stands for Protect our Birds) to raise some much needed cash for our cause. JMO Feel we have saturated every good avenue of 'Good causes' and perhap it is now the time to help our members. Of course J, I'm not implying that you haven't and are not fore front in this compaign. With you whatever you decide.

So he became his Step Father.

I can't understand why, nor how, so called Pigeon Fanciers can and do just sit idly by feed these BOP! I can't understand why they will pay out £100's of pounds on loft accessories, £100' on so call meds, £100's on training and feeding etc. £100's on buying in new stock / y/b's but begrudge a single little £ to have a PR Firm AS A MOUTH PIECE, AS A THINK TAKES, AS A MEANS TO PUT OUR PLIGHT OVER TO THE GENERAL public as a mouth piece. As a Think Tank, as a means to put our plight over regards the desecrations of our birds. To inform the general public just what and how the RSPB are taking them folks for fools, that they cater only for POB yet take money under false pretences saying they protect ALL birds etc. etc. One flipping £! Yes a flipping little quiddy each :( Further why they won't put hand in pocket or help raise £80 a bird or £160 a pair of lovely Eagle Owls' Obviously no chance there then! Lets all moan a little more eh! :'( I can't understand exactly how after ever occasion the subject is brought up, in any sphere. Boy and how they can whinge and moan Yet then simple shrug shoulders and say 'Weer RPRA - or such - should being doing it! I can't understand how they haven't after all this time realise another 'Committee to look into BOP and see if they is any problem! Ekk!- That they don’t get the gist that it is just a ploy to abide time and off put any development! I can't believe, yet alone understand how they still believe in the ‘Tooth Fairy’! I can understand why we are the joke, and a laughing stock to the RSPB and their following brigade! I can understand how they infiltrate and rub salt in with great glee in so called debates on a Pigeon Site. I can't understand when the whiners and moaners then complain to the ‘Mods’ about genuine fanciers trying to alleviate and get a little head way in regards helping our pigeons.... and give a little back! But then for Forum Members to complain about fanciers giving back verbal in reply to BOP lover and antagonises.... streuth ring an bell ding dong roll on . Yes I have put this up, hopefully it will remain... well till so – called pigeon fanciers complain yet again that some fancier is spouting truths again.... and that it should be sorted via the MODS! Streuth holy mackerel!

Stepson is when a parent marries another, who becomes their' Step Mum or Dad. So obviously, unless in Gretna Green I suppose, if someone marries your mum they become your Step Father (Dad) Now I think that is what you mean.... Unless Karel married Weyars Mother.

Hopefully he'll be back.... Don't want to tempt fate and say more... Was pretty solid and upfront I believe. All in all one the forum likes to have on board. .............. Should get a reduction on that young bird :o :P ;D ;D

You mean step father surely :-/

Yep me too, and I'm a perfect member lol.

One eyed cold is a minute draft that catches the eye. Like a nail hole etc. Just flipping spit in it and have done.... then find the hole near it's perch and bung it up

Tea bag.... better still just spit in it, job done. A smoker spitting in it is even better. Gosh.... streuth!

Should state the last fellow .... Driver here actually had relatives ex fanciers. He was very interesting to talk to and just a nice fellow for there were several of course, but all good. :-/ :

And were certainly 100% in the very many years I dealt with them.... just after TNT or whatever name packed up. Every single time in good time and curteous and all ways delivered asap. Driver here actually had relatives ex fanciers. He was very interesting to talk to and just a nice fellow.

But don't bother to tell them! :-/ ;)

Exactly, and if wearing their Eye liner Pool it!

No... takes a week to reset it's inners so needs rest. Then sent the Sat urday after - after not losing her - she should be sitting tight and ripe. Yes a couple of light tosses and fed High carbs mixed on Monday, a bit more on Tuesday and all Carbs Wednesday. If basketing THURSADAY then feed high Carbs a day before, and just prior to sending in basket.

Yes he used it to make marmite sarnies lol ;D ;D

Now why would any one want to do that :-/ :o If there was a problem with RSPB and / Or sympathisers, why remove our posts for them? :-/ Surely the logical and sensible solution would be to do as they do - and pretty sharpish to at that - is remove the agitators that come on purely to gleefully rub salt into our wounds :B :B :B

Well Chris, in all honesty fly naturual for now... two seasons or so. have fun, yes heart ache and disappointment, but enjoy for a season or so on naturual. You will learn a lot, a lot quicker, and much that will stand you in good stead. Have fun, time enough to go chasing after glories lol. Y/b's will win just same etc.

A little in mornings and a little more at night. 1/2 ounce morning and 3/4 ounze with a tip bit at nitght. But you know, once they have finished rajging / roaming, just taking off and landing keeps them fit. Best place to observe. Then if possible a couple of twenty mile chucks a week. 2 weeks before racing 20 miles every day in any and all directions. They'll be fit, honed and really ready too race. So no problems eh! People tend to listen to too many and often they relate to old adages or myths etc. On the roof they tell you their frame of mind and condition. On the perch when first entering the loft your first birds back.... but if done as a bove, most drop together.... that is when you know your loft is in form.

Air flow possibly, but circulation no. There is a vast difference, and an important one. But any and all air is good.... just needs to circulate.

Gosh you don't half talk a load of cobblers, and dish out crap. Strange when I am on their sies, when I was in the states, no FANCIERS has ever seen or heard, let alone such P***. Carry on taking the Michael, your mealy mouth will run dry. Gosh what your Mother should be accounted for eh :o