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That was why I titled the thread old bird clashing as young birds are a different issue altogether

Young birds are a different matter and without doubt will follow the flock

It's a major part of the job !! But if the sky is going to get a whole lot busier this year there will always be birds on the line of flight so a very difficult balance will have to be found

Stuart i totally agree about libs within a short distance but not if birds are on there way (say half an hour as a rough guide) the peregrine thing could not be attributed to clashing imo

Having raced over 40 years I can remember much larger libs of both Welsh and English feds up here in the North East but honestly can't remember definite clashing occuring

It's a theory but if it happened if would surely be classed as unavoidable

Looks like one of the main topics for the forthcoming year will undoubtedly be clashing,does anyone have any evidence/experience of large scale losses due to Old birds clashing,imo the occasional bird going off course can occur at any time and I know over the years we all have probably had birds come into our loft that have sometimes overshot their lofts big time (Dutch birds for example) but do people believe that once old birds have left the lib site and are on their way that they will suddenly do a 180 degree turn and head off with another batch ? Imo if they did then they wouldn't be much of a loss.

Houseboat there's a solution n

Given that 90% of the viewers on here will be deid in 30 years ye might be better suggesting buying burial plot's on higher ground :drinking-coffee-200:

Lee,put in a couple from Duncan and Thomson and all the best to you and your old man from us

Another big negative surely is that it should have been timed to be on the agendas for both clubs a.g.m.s

Top flying john,great finish to another season

Undoubtedly things have changed but racing old or young is by choice and I have no wish to see that changed,whilst many fancier are losing birds in alarming numbers i am sure in many feds there will be a big difference in losses loft by loft as has always been the case

For the forty years i have raced the choice has always been there for me to chose whether to race my young birds or not,don't see why it should change now !!

Easy for you to say😀you ain't sitting alongside him in the van,its care in the vw caddy not the community😂

Well done matthew,what a boost

Well done John,and also good bird for Gordon geddes way out west

Huge well done to all three

Thanks for the kind words and well done rick,a couple of hours with me in the van and you have come good 😂😂,also to gavin,best breeder buyer bird ever

Heavy rain,strong North westerly and very poor visibility here North East scotland

Very high broken cloud,about 50% blue,little or no wind,lovely here North East scotland

Well done gordon,chuffed for you

Well done gordon,great result

F That was always my thoughts too robbie but if we don't have clear instructions prior to the review on the 18th we will be too late