grdkeith

aye but sparrowhawk kills more round my loft than the local peregrines do and most don't have their birds out in November because of them

Being devils advocate here but most years once we get past the first three or four races and the remaining birds are more experienced and the poorly trained,sick and incapable pigeons are long gone we seem to get better racing and returns when there must be the same large amount of peregrines still in the sky. Back to Derek's original post,November racing means going to race points even after the clocks have gone back and up here the sparrowhawks are back on the go by then

Andy I struggle with latebreds and have tried many times with many methods over forty years and if I assume i had 15 every year then the total over that time would be 600 and very few have made the grade. When you say you noticed no difference did your raced ybs perform well as yearlings and your latebreds match them or did they all perform less well than you had hoped ?

Too late in the year for me,not sure weather in November up here suitable and half the fancy still would not be ready jmo

Well done john,big team ,small team ,it don't matter

Well done oldie

Don't think we have had some rain on race day so far but sure will have tomorrow,they need to be up with the sun tomorrow jmo

For your birthday today-------------try turning on time basketing

I would let anyone without a comp know but I am nearly 59 and nae sure I have that much time left

So it's brechin on Saturday good!!sorted !! Do you still need clubs birdages for dunfermline 2 if we get there ?

Please tell me you never voted for any of those two

Tossed 120 club birds @ 8.20 this morning,great weather with excellent returns,can't tell you where from until after polls close but it starts with a B Might try the F word tomorrow

Would be good to know as a few of us hope to train down there tomorrow

Good question,our club has heard nowt so far !!

Understood chris,my point was a race is better than none and even a toss if possible this week for those who have not yet started would be prefferable (given that only 31 members out of 102sent to first race), That would then give us the chance of continuing the programme (weather permitting) as normal. Having done the job myself i know that it would be a risk and a thankless task if weather once again screws it up but worth considering P.s. If we are ever really really really desperate how you at babysitting

Having three foster children is not what I would call not working chris!!

If the choice is between a midweek race and no race then it's a no brainer,season is short enough without missing a race

Bet he got a cuppa from ye

first of all a big thanks to all in the forfar area for their help in getting north east birds gathered up after our horrendous yb race from forfar , i have them at home just now and will get them over to raymonds tonight or tomorrow.the ring nos are below and are all n.e.rung bar one due for buckie with an a.f.prefix 3282 981 3097 3702 3291 2163 2066 3044 3576 5756 2058 3104 4561 106 and the a.f. one is 1761 also tossed at blackburn ab 18 2096 and 19 ab 1841 there is also a gb 19v67311 which if not claimed will be tossed in a few days once ready george

Hi 2609. Is mine,I am down in Glasgow coming back up road on Wed morning and if you could pm me your contact details I will gladly pick them all up if you could kindly provide a box George

Agreed Gavin,the point I was trying to make s that I wouldn't put it down to raptors,I only put a small team because of wind

Heat,very humid/thunder conditions and East winds coupled with a pretty patchy first race,birds of prey are always going to be a factor but don't think they would produce such slow vels all round. Friday when we tossed there was hot,quite misty and birds homed on time,but there was no east wind

Agreed ryan,exactly the point i was trying to make

Agreed Ronnie it's stopped being fun

Bob i am not going to respond to that comment as it is beneath contempt, Never in my time have i seen such a poor race.. from 60miles, 5 hours between my first two birds.