Took a run down to Irvine about 15 years ago when Henry had an advert in the BHW, also selling half his stock birds at the time, he was advertising one particular strain of birds that I already had direct , when I arrived he had about 20 birds in a couple of baskets for me to look at ( I had called so he knew I was coming ) anyway looked at them all and they were a heap of crud in poor condition'. When I told him there was nothing there for me he went into the loft (. I didn't get in ) and brought out another 4 birds in a small basket, these weren't any better bar one cock which I quite liked so took a chance bought this one When I put it in the loft it turned out that it always had sloppy droppings which although I treated it for everything were never perfect, anyway the time came and I paired it up where the youngsters in the nest also had sloppy droppings so the cock and the youngsters were moved on permanently Possibly just unlucky but I doubt it, wouldn't recommend buying birds here to anyone