Up at 5 too dark to let birds out before work , get home at around 6 lock naturals up (been on open hole) just taken hens away from cocks yesterday, cocks out one hour , hens out 45 mins , have only 3 ybs so no problem there . Will let cocks out twice a day when it gets light at 5 , my biggest problem is I work but don't drive so getting training in is a night mare ,thank god for the missus who hates the birds lol.