Ohh, incidently! I've lost 3 at training. BUT i'm down 16/24 Ck's, my hens have faired much better, ONLY! dropped 8/26. However on the up side there are still plenty of experienced doos from 2011 to 2009 still here, so all else going well i should be able to have a wee go at the SNFC races and especially the Ypres race in the Fed. So i suppose every has a silver lining, just no easy tae see it at times.