Club Secretaries

[REDCHEQHEN]

The work of club secretaries is undervalued and particularly in my club, some of the members are awkward and bloody minded and create extra work. My club has 19 member lofts, my OH is secretary and does all the assigning of rings the results sheet, banks the money works out the pool money, pays it out.takes the result over to the fed secretary for the fed result(18 mile round trip) Organises the payout,the artists the catering the engraving of the trophies. The presentation - setting out the trophies, the speeches organising the guests to do the presentation. Buying the raffle prizes, guests thank you presents and flowers. Putting together the prize cards, points money, organising the AGM, speeches - it's never ending. My husband gets £50 for expenses (increased from £25 2 years ago) it doesn't even cover the petrol money to the fed. He gets abuse, there are those who will not pay on time, whether it's the subs, vaccination money, or race money - it's a full time job - for £50 a year - they're taking the p##s

[Hillstreetblues48]

The work of club secretaries is undervalued and particularly in my club, some of the members are awkward and bloody minded and create extra work. My club has 19 member lofts, my OH is secretary and does all the assigning of rings the results sheet, banks the money works out the pool money, pays it out.takes the result over to the fed secretary for the fed result(18 mile round trip) Organises the payout,the artists the catering the engraving of the trophies. The presentation - setting out the trophies, the speeches organising the guests to do the presentation. Buying the raffle prizes, guests thank you presents and flowers. Putting together the prize cards, points money, organising the AGM, speeches - it's never ending. My husband gets £50 for expenses (increased from £25 2 years ago) it doesn't even cover the petrol money to the fed. He gets abuse, there are those who will not pay on time, whether it's the subs, vaccination money, or race money - it's a full time job - for £50 a year - they're taking the p##s

that's the kind of secretary they are all looking for so they don't need to do *expletive removed* all,then they'll say he is a great guy

[novo10]

The work of club secretaries is undervalued and particularly in my club, some of the members are awkward and bloody minded and create extra work. My club has 19 member lofts, my OH is secretary and does all the assigning of rings the results sheet, banks the money works out the pool money, pays it out.takes the result over to the fed secretary for the fed result(18 mile round trip) Organises the payout,the artists the catering the engraving of the trophies. The presentation - setting out the trophies, the speeches organising the guests to do the presentation. Buying the raffle prizes, guests thank you presents and flowers. Putting together the prize cards, points money, organising the AGM, speeches - it's never ending. My husband gets £50 for expenses (increased from £25 2 years ago) it doesn't even cover the petrol money to the fed. He gets abuse, there are those who will not pay on time, whether it's the subs, vaccination money, or race money - it's a full time job - for £50 a year - they're taking the p##s

He should get paid

[REDCHEQHEN]

I forgot to say - my other half works as well, a tiring debilitating job as a home delivery driver

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I think this is the case with a lot of secretaries. Both of my clubs are very similar, with the exception that others help carry out some of the tasks you have listed. The "wages" amount to no more than a gratuity. After performing all your hard work, here is a financial gift to allow you to treat your OH to a meal because you have not been available to them. The "work" performed was done because you enjoy your hobby.

This should not be the case, however, if you pay a wage, then the costs to the members increases and given the age and financial circumstances, you may lose members and further increase the burden for those remaining.

The only solution is to spread the workload. If every member does a little, then the secretary will have less to do and the "gratuity" will be more commensurate with the task.

[Dmurray]

The work of club secretaries is undervalued and particularly in my club, some of the members are awkward and bloody minded and create extra work. My club has 19 member lofts, my OH is secretary and does all the assigning of rings the results sheet, banks the money works out the pool money, pays it out.takes the result over to the fed secretary for the fed result(18 mile round trip) Organises the payout,the artists the catering the engraving of the trophies. The presentation - setting out the trophies, the speeches organising the guests to do the presentation. Buying the raffle prizes, guests thank you presents and flowers. Putting together the prize cards, points money, organising the AGM, speeches - it's never ending. My husband gets £50 for expenses (increased from £25 2 years ago) it doesn't even cover the petrol money to the fed. He gets abuse, there are those who will not pay on time, whether it's the subs, vaccination money, or race money - it's a full time job - for £50 a year - they're taking the p##s

 

 

club secretaries do a tireless job and defo deserve to be well paided, ours gets 300 but dosent do the ets rings,the assigning of the ets is a job its self never mind trying to do the rest as well,

[paddymac]

I was secretary of my local club for 10yrs, as already been said it is a thankless task that no money could pay you for it. I never got a payment but had my club fees free which was a sum of £25. I still had to pay my RPRA fees and Nipa fees. If ever asked again I would doubt I would say yes.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I was secretary of my local club for 10yrs, as already been said it is a thankless task that no money could pay you for it. I never got a payment but had my club fees free which was a sum of £25. I still had to pay my RPRA fees and Nipa fees. If ever asked again I would doubt I would say yes.

 

and now we know why it is so difficult to get anyone to fill these tasks. The other thing, not mentioned yet, is usually your own pigeons suffer and results drop. When the secretary gives up the job, it is noticed that their results begin to improve in a lot of cases.

[Tony C]

Yep they're taking advantage of he's good nature. Put a proposition in at the AGM that secretary fees shall be £xx per loft. Let the members know should it get defeated he will be standing down.

[andy Burgess]

Yep they're taking advantage of he's good nature. Put a proposition in at the AGM that secretary fees shall be £xx per loft. Let the members know should it get defeated he will be standing down.

 

 

i will second that 1 Tony

[paddymac]

and now we know why it is so difficult to get anyone to fill these tasks. The other thing, not mentioned yet, is usually your own pigeons suffer and results drop. When the secretary gives up the job, it is noticed that their results begin to improve in a lot of cases.

Most definitely more time spent with my birds Andy

[Wiley]

Our sec on north gets £500 a year that’s without ets

[flying fifer]

If we were to pay our Club and Federation Secretary an hourly rate, we would be bankrupt.

Every year at AGM his gratuity is discussed and voted upon but he never takes it.

He runs his own building business, as well as organising ETS and makes himself available for delivery and collection of food at Club rooms. Without doubt unsung heroes of our sport..

[REDCHEQHEN]

Yep they're taking advantage of he's good nature. Put a proposition in at the AGM that secretary fees shall be £xx per loft. Let the members know should it get defeated he will be standing down.

I think that's what I'll do, we can't continue to subsidise the club and be out of pocket each week, which reminds me - I haven't got my money back for the printer ink I paid for on Amazon!

[ovy1255]

Sorry you are not in a fair club!

We just lost our sec a few weeks ago -great guy.

Now we spread his work around --whoever wins puts baskets away and cleans and sprays them as well as seals and strings,the result for fed sec is done in basket hut on saturday and winner takes result to fed sec.one member has small program he done on laptop so does pools and fees on friday night and makes a list what everyone owes in a few mins.

I do ets assignment and sort ets out.

We should be thinking of e mailing and using bacs for payment to fed sec but were OLD.

TIME TO TELL THEM --things need to change.

[Walter swanston]

Interesting post I take the perhaps unusual view that it is a privilege to be a club secretary.I have been secretary of my club for about 20 years I have been auditor, president and now Vice President of my federation.I have never taken any payment except occasionally petrol money for travelling to meetings of the SHU council..I am not and never will be much of a fancier but I love having racing pigeons around and I suppose I feel that taking on these administrative positions allows me to give something back to the fancy which gives me such enjoyment.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Interesting post I take the perhaps unusual view that it is a privilege to be a club secretary.I have been secretary of my club for about 20 years I have been auditor, president and now Vice President of my federation.I have never taken any payment except occasionally petrol money for travelling to meetings of the SHU council..I am not and never will be much of a fancier but I love having racing pigeons around and I suppose I feel that taking on these administrative positions allows me to give something back to the fancy which gives me such enjoyment.

 

I think a lot are in this position Walter, but purse strings are tightening and people are having to reconsider.

[DJWa]

The work of club secretaries is undervalued and particularly in my club, some of the members are awkward and bloody minded and create extra work. My club has 19 member lofts, my OH is secretary and does all the assigning of rings the results sheet, banks the money works out the pool money, pays it out.takes the result over to the fed secretary for the fed result(18 mile round trip) Organises the payout,the artists the catering the engraving of the trophies. The presentation - setting out the trophies, the speeches organising the guests to do the presentation. Buying the raffle prizes, guests thank you presents and flowers. Putting together the prize cards, points money, organising the AGM, speeches - it's never ending. My husband gets £50 for expenses (increased from £25 2 years ago) it doesn't even cover the petrol money to the fed. He gets abuse, there are those who will not pay on time, whether it's the subs, vaccination money, or race money - it's a full time job - for £50 a year - they're taking the p##s

 

 

no need to pay secretarys etc etc , all jobs shared is the way to go

, if you don't step up and do your share you don't get your birds put away ,

abviously some are not fit enough or able to do some of the jobs ,

but even these guys can be ets checker, basket cleaner,

count the birds going into the baskets , deliver the result, be a delegate ,

also jobs can be split , the sec doesn't or shouldn't have to do everything ,

the president can organise presentations etc etc , you can have 2 clock setters , etc etc ,

if everyone who does a job wanted payed for it

it would cost a fortune to race and nobody would join/race

 

my club nobody gets payed they only get expenses and these are very rarely claimed , we have 1 sec. 1 pres, 1 treasurer and 2 clock setters ,