Benzing G2

[Wiley]

Anyone know anything about these clocks? A friend of mine has offered to lend me his as his not racing this season, my own fed doesnt except ets due to gentlemans agreement, but i was wondering can i register my pigeons on this clock myself, and use it for training purposes?

[andy Burgess]

Anyone know anything about these clocks? A friend of mine has offered to lend me his as his not racing this season, my own fed doesnt except ets due to gentlemans agreement, but i was wondering can i register my pigeons on this clock myself, and use it for training purposes?

 

not sure if this is the model "Greenlands" uses ? try a PM to see ?

[Tony C]

Clive uses a Benzing.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

You need a Club system to register your pigeons.

[greenlands]

You need a Club system to register your pigeons.

Correct Andy.

http://www.homingpigeons.co.uk/pdf/G2guide.pdf

[Roland]

We have Jim Savage the agent on here. First class and only too pleased to help. A scholar and gentleman.

give him a buzz. Don't believe '.... You need a Club system to register your pigeons'. to train them. But of course to race them. Guess that leads to why would any one train them if not in future going to race them?

Unless one wants to see their merit before hand ... which of course training wouldn't show much in that regards.

So for personal use one must be able to. One mustn't get mixed up regards owning and using one as against abiding the governing bodies rule IF to race.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Without a Club system there is no facility to load the information onto your clock, so you do have to use a club system.

 

Once the pigeons are entered onto your clock you are free to use the clock for training only. Prior to racing is a busy time for me since I have to register all club members' pigeons onto their clocks.

[greenlands]

We have Jim Savage the agent on here. First class and only too pleased to help. A scholar and gentleman.

give him a buzz. Don't believe '.... You need a Club system to register your pigeons'. to train them. But of course to race them. Guess that leads to why would any one train them if not in future going to race them?

Unless one wants to see their merit before hand ... which of course training wouldn't show much in that regards.

So for personal use one must be able to. One mustn't get mixed up regards owning and using one as against abiding the governing bodies rule IF to race.

 

Wrong.

[Roland]

If you like ... So get the birds registered. Via a club or a RPRA / SHU or such! But nothing needs to stop a person from a Club Official from setting it up. He would still need to be a member to race in that club by paying club fees etc. full stop! Nothing to stop a E.T. being SET up for training purposes though... Also many are members of say the SHU who aren't in a club. They can fly nationals USING a E.T.

So if a club official sets it up for him then no bother. Must be legal and able.

 

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[Roland]

Besides if he buys one it is his to do what he likes with it.

Set it up for himself. Hang it on a Xmas tree, or dangle of a gutter etc. Won't have 'Distances unless a member of a union etc. won't be on it But then he wouldn't need one.

 

Our club secretary would do it for him if he struggled etc. For it is no more than a aid to see what time a pigeon arrived at his loft etc. Nothing to do with Club or unions.

[greenlands]

No one said it had anything to do with club/union or anyone else.You need a Benzing club system to register the pigeons on a Benzing ETS.

I have one sitting in front of me.

[Wiley]

Lets not get into a heated debate gentleman, i think its clear that my friend wouldnt be able to lend me his system only for TRAINING purposes, unless someone from a club can register the rings for me.

[greenlands]

Lets not get into a heated debate gentleman, i think its clear that my friend wouldnt be able to lend me his system only for TRAINING purposes, unless someone from a club can register the rings for me.

Correct Ryan,you need a Benzing club system mate,not a big job to do just time consuming,if your friends club has a system someone will be able to register your birds for you.

[Roland]

Anyone know anything about these clocks? A friend of mine has offered to lend me his as his not racing this season, my own fed doesnt except ets due to gentlemans agreement, but i was wondering can i register my pigeons on this clock myself, and use it for training purposes?

 

True gentleman that it isn't needed to get into a heated debate. I agree, sorry if I sounded that way. It wasn't intended.

 

But the simple fact is this. Take my Benzing. It is good and legal in any and all club races.

So is able to be used as a trainer.

Your friends birds wouldn't be on the clock as they wouldn't be put on by the club official that is a club setter, or ANY one else that is a clock setter.

There can't be any rules stating that they can't set up a clock with the ring numbers for Training. Of course they wouldn't be eligible to race in the club.

If I bought a new clock and asked my SEC to set it up for Trainers only, as owner of the pigeons and the ET. then there is nothing untoward or illegal for doing that. I think any one with knowledge could set a clock up for this purpose.

Indeed I wonder if it can be set up with out any needs to use, or be in a club. We tend to think of it in regards RPRA and Club ruling TO race. I don't as I say for a moment think this is right or enforceable.

Am wait for club Sec and RPRA official to get back to me... Be tomorrow now I guess as I'm get the cold glares of wife want to watch the telly lol.

[peter dempsey]

simple enough ? if your friend is good enough to lend you his clock he could also get your rings regestard to the clock at his own club, this should not prove to dificult and not breaking any rules as long as you are only using for training purposes

[Wiley]

simple enough ? if your friend is good enough to lend you his clock he could also get your rings regestard to the clock at his own club, this should not prove to dificult and not breaking any rules as long as you are only using for training purposes

 

Yes that is all its for, so i know how birds trap while im not at the loft.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Ryan, your club has an agreement not to use ETS, therefore nobody in your club will have a Benzing Club System.

 

Your mate is offering you the use of the clock. If he is able to get your pigeons registered on the clock by the relevant clock setter in charge of his club's Benzing Club system, then there is no problem in you using it.

 

Your only difficulty is whether the clock setter will register your pigeons. They need to know the ring number, colour and sex of the pigeons. They fill in these details on the computer using Benzing Pidexx. Once the details are loaded to the computer they connect your clock via the Club system and load your clock with the relevant information. They then return your clock with a copy of the Pidexx print out for supply to whichever organisation you are using the clock for, as well as your own copy.

 

You are now up and away. Have fun with it. It is a great system and very easy to operate.

[Roland]

Yes Kyleakin, true ... But it doesn't have to be a club computer! Any computer will do it ... Club computers certainly don't have anything special that makes it special to do it.

Home computer would work,and then they wouldn't have them ring numbers of the club racers ON THE club computer! Only those on the club computer would show.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Yes Kyleakin, true ... But it doesn't have to be a club computer! Any computer will do it ... Club computers certainly don't have anything special that makes it special to do it.

Home computer would work,and then they wouldn't have them ring numbers of the club racers ON THE club computer! Only those on the club computer would show.

 

Yes Roly, a computer is a computer is a computer, so it doesn't matter which one you use. Go to Benzing, download Pidexx and use it to enter the pigeons. Now, without a Benzing club system, how do you propose to send this information to the Benzing G2 clock?

[johnc]

time to get rid of the gentlemans agreement as it only suits some members that live in the past and dont like change if they dont want to use it thats fine but dont let them stop those that do

[Roland]

Well the Club Sec and ET Setter just rung me. Said 'Haven't ignored me, just walked in from my Holiday in Portugal'. Weather not good, but improved later in the week.

Any way Yes would need a Benzing club system. But would be no problem in putting his rings through ... Wouldn't use those off the internet as seems many are duds.

Off course wouldn't be able to race them, but for personal use / training like no problem, and wouldn't be illegal or anything. Most club would, like he would, set it up no problem.

Obviously they'd be rung and where or how he got the rings would be irrelevant.

So glad that sorted out.

Yes I was wrong in not realising that a Benzing club system would still have to be used. I apologise.

 

Besides Wiley you already have rung birds etc. so no problem there then.

[greenlands]

Well the Club Sec and ET Setter just rung me. Said 'Haven't ignored me, just walked in from my Holiday in Portugal'. Weather not good, but improved later in the week.

Any way Yes would need a Benzing club system. But would be no problem in putting his rings through ... Wouldn't use those off the internet as seems many are duds.

Off course wouldn't be able to race them, but for personal use / training like no problem, and wouldn't be illegal or anything. Most club would, like he would, set it up no problem.

Obviously they'd be rung and where or how he got the rings would be irrelevant.

So glad that sorted out.

Yes I was wrong in not realising that a Benzing club system would still have to be used. I apologise.

 

Besides Wiley you already have rung birds etc. so no problem there then.

 

No apology required Roland,thank you for the discussion,we all learn something new each day,if we didn't life would be so boring.

Lindsay C.

[bluey]

The system can be used for training without registering the ring.

 

All that needs to be done is allocate a ring to a pigeon pass, the ring over the pad and it will read "unknown pigeon" or similar and also show the unique code for the ring. Make a note of code and ring number of pigeon and whenever that ring crosses the pad it will be recorded as unknown pigeon etc;

It may seem like a lot of work but the more often used the easier it will get to cross reference code and pigeon and will be worth the effort.

[airdrie2]

it will only reg 7 unknown pigeons at one time

[Roland]

So airdrie2 does that mean A. it keeps it in store till deleted? Also does it mean then another 7 and another 7 can be added after?