Single Pin Tail +Tight Vent Bones

[eastcoaster]

WHY,

Having had a loft visit at the weekend from an old distance fancier lol this was picked upon and I would like to know WHY must a top pigeon have them , is it truly a weekness in the pigeon or is it just a fad .

Interested in replys .

[Delboy]

this pigeon had the worst drooped tail feathers you would ever see but just before she won the west section at the gold cup her tail came up and was very tight. ps. less of the old lol

This photo was taken the morning after the Gold cup and you can see her tail starting to loosen again.

Edited February 23, 2016 by Delboy

[eastcoaster]

this pigeon had the worst drooped tail feathers you would ever see but just before she won the west section at the gold cup her tail came up and was very tight. ps. less of the old lol

This photo was taken the morning after the Gold cup and you can see her tail starting to loosen again.

Quality pigeon that .

Just read a book on pigeon selection and all pigeons without these are eliminated .

You must have a hang up on your age lol

[yeboah]

I have been in the company of very good fanciers and national winners Colin ,all have their fads regarding vents and single tail

I personally have never judged a bird on its vent ,but the single tail to me is all about balance in the hand listening to the experts ,my good cock Saddleback has not the best tail but shoulders and a back like a staffie many roads lead to Rome

I am more interested in the opposite end from the tail ( what's between the lugs)

Atb mick

[eastcoaster]

I have been in the company of very good fanciers and national winners Colin ,all have their fads regarding vents and single tail

I personally have never judged a bird on its vent ,but the single tail to me is all about balance in the hand listening to the experts ,my good cock Saddleback has not the best tail but shoulders and a back like a staffie many roads lead to Rome

I am more interested in the opposite end from the tail ( what's between the lugs)

Atb mick

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Think if we all had a top pigeon with these so called defects it would be tosh but if it had tight vent with single feather tail it would be a must .

Yet they tell us the Belgians and Dutch are years in front yet loads have a selector before season starts ! Does that mean they know nowt themselves .

[lanarkshire lad]

I have been in the company of very good fanciers and national winners Colin ,all have their fads regarding vents and single tail

I personally have never judged a bird on its vent ,but the single tail to me is all about balance in the hand listening to the experts ,my good cock Saddleback has not the best tail but shoulders and a back like a staffie many roads lead to Rome

I am more interested in the opposite end from the tail ( what's between the lugs)

Atb mick

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Think if we all had a top pigeon with these so called defects it would be tosh but if it had tight vent with single feather tail it would be a must .

Yet they tell us the Belgians and Dutch are years in front yet loads have a selector before season starts ! Does that mean they know nowt themselves .

The Dutch and the Belgians are just the same as us trial and error I don't know of any experts sure you get people that talk a good game but that comes easy to some folk.

[walterboswell59]

theres no bad distance winners when they hit the board on national night colin

[We man]

Years ago I asked one of Ayrshires finest Big Jock Campbell of Dalry what was his best ever racer and he told me it was the most ugly bassa in his loft with a keel like a corkscrew,boy could he race a doo,says it all imho.

[eastcoaster]

theres no bad distance winners when they hit the board on national night colin

That's for sure Walter .

[walterboswell59]

the ugliest bird in my loft is the dam of my silver award winner and four other birds to score in snfc go figure thankfully she does not breed her like

[We man]

the ugliest bird in my loft is the dam of my silver award winner and four other birds to score in snfc go figure thankfully she does not breed her like

I asked a fisherman friend of mine Walter why he married the most ugly wummin in the world his answer was,i know that but shes full o worms.

[walterboswell59]

I asked a fisherman friend of mine Walter why he married the most ugly wummin in the world his answer was,i know that but shes full o worms.

lol

id take an ugly winner to a cracking dumpling anyday jake

Edited February 23, 2016 by walterboswell59

[Delboy]

If you ask Jim Hannah who has handled all the top national winners ( while taking their photos )for many years he will tell you that they all handle different. But he says most have a good back.

[bullcock]

Del, I was just going to mention jim hannah as a man who has handled more snfc champions than anyone and he says they come in all shapes and sizes.

I think you hit the nail on the head by knowing your bird had a drooping tail but also had the observation to notice she had tightened up to a single flight. The rest is history.

[Delboy]

Del, I was just going to mention jim hannah as a man who has handled more snfc champions than anyone and he says they come in all shapes and sizes.

I think you hit the nail on the head by knowing your bird had a drooping tail but also had the observation to notice she had tightened up to a single flight. The rest is history.

 

Aye Robert, your right m8.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

I asked a fisherman friend of mine Walter why he married the most ugly wummin in the world his answer was,i know that but shes full o worms.

 

:D The auld yins are the best.

Talking about the joke Derek, although you're no bad yourself even though you're not very auld.

Edited February 23, 2016 by Kyleakin Lofts

[William Reid]

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[Roland]

A great book, written over several years and loft visits was produced and publish in Belgium in 2007.

It did a survey for want of a better word, of national and excellent performances of top pigeons. Weight, sizes, lengths, shapes etc. etc. Vents, tails etc. etc

It finished via saying that top pigeons come in all shapes. weight and sizes and that there certainly wasn't a common denominator. I believe that Ponderosa stud have copies. Indeed it was via them that I learned of it when visiting Canada.

[Tony C]

Have read of fanciers along with other things pairing up their pigeons to try and breed pintails. They will pair pigeons with opposite laying tails, they pair one that lays to the right with one that lays to the left.