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[dal2]

Andy, Perhaps you can answer my dillema !. When writing a post there are times I have to look elsewher to ascertain my facts are correct, Yesterday was one of those days and I did not post immediately and went looking for further information so was on another site for about 20 minutes. Would I be correct in assuming that if you have not typed any further for a certain period of time the post deletes itself ?.

Copy what ye have written to a clipboard or just ctrl c then ctrl if you loose it

[andy Burgess]

Andy, Perhaps you can answer my dillema !. When writing a post there are times I have to look elsewher to ascertain my facts are correct, Yesterday was one of those days and I did not post immediately and went looking for further information so was on another site for about 20 minutes. Would I be correct in assuming that if you have not typed any further for a certain period of time the post deletes itself ?.

 

i will be totally honest Peter , i dont know , i cant recall having not posted and left it for any great length of time . i will try it out and get back to you .

[just ask me]

peter im not sure why its going missing ill try read up on it it maybe an idea to copy and paste it not sure if you can send your self a message that would be a handy

 

 

next time it happens try pressing the back browser button it may bring it bk

[andy Burgess]

i will be totally honest Peter , i dont know , i cant recall having not posted and left it for any great length of time . i will try it out and get back to you .

 

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well i wrote this , and left it for 26 minutes Peter , and it,s worked ??

[Kyleakin Lofts]

When writing down something that you may have to research, do so on a Word document or some such. Once you have completed the piece, copy and paste it on to your post.

[peter pandy]

Thanks for all the replies guys and its all gobblygook to me as I use this contraption like a typewriter and dont know how to paste, transfer etc and I have in the past used the back arrow and had no problem in my limited capacity of being a dullard. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[peter pandy]

Well yesterday's post dissapeared so will endeavour to try again.

Thursday began with with the normal pre pairing dropping's samples and crop swabs making sure I was getting the cotton bud the full 10ins in !!, with the help from the wife you will understand where my measurements are coming from and posted to the Deweerd Laboratory for testing as I never blind treat apart from shoving 100mg Rodinazol tablet down a youngsters throat when weaning.

Its funny but when I see the Deweerd name I always think about Bernard De Weerdt from Kortemarke as he was a frequent visitor to C.J. Williams twice or thrice a year and we spent many an hour at the loft discussing all the topics of pigeon management under the sun. He was pleasantly surprised when I enquired about the late developement of his family and was their any particular reason why as his birds originated from the same source as C.J's namely Marcel Desmet who when living was another frequent visitor along with Senator La Haye, Van Bruanne, Van Der Espt and Maurice Delbar.

Bernard then told me that his entire young bird race team was sold every year apart from the odd youngster that had made its mark and at the end of Old Bird racing a team of late breds were reared which was the Yearling team for the following year. They were not trained until the following Spring and raced out to 150 miles. So basically they became late developers with his entire race team starting out as a late bred which to his reckoning made them slow moulters so he could compete distance races in July/August as three year olds. I have to say the DeWeerdt stock birds C.J. had, never bred anything of note but that could have been down to my predecessor who was a complete waste of space and way out of his depth.

[Wiley]

Can not believe it !!!! I have sat her for ages writing about Emiel De Weerdt and Marcel Desmet and lost the blinking lot. Will rewrite it another time.

 

 

Well yesterday's post dissapeared so will endeavour to try again.Thursday began with with the normal pre pairing dropping's samples and crop swabs making sure I was getting the cotton bud the full 10ins in !!, with the help from the wife you will understand where my measurements are coming from and posted to the Deweerd Laboratory for testing as I never blind treat apart from shoving 100mg Rodinazol tablet down a youngsters throat when weaning.Its funny but when I see the Deweerd name I always think about Bernard De Weerdt from Kortemarke as he was a frequent visitor to C.J. Williams twice or thrice a year and we spent many an hour at the loft discussing all the topics of pigeon management under the sun. He was pleasantly surprised when I enquired about the late developement of his family and was their any particular reason why as his birds originated from the same source as C.J's namely Marcel Desmet who when living was another frequent visitor along with Senator La Haye, Van Bruanne, Van Der Espt and Maurice Delbar.Bernard then told me that his entire young bird race team was sold every year apart from the odd youngster that had made its mark and at the end of Old Bird racing a team of late breds were reared which was the Yearling team for the following year. They were not trained until the following Spring and raced out to 150 miles. So basically they became late developers with his entire race team starting out as a late bred which to his reckoning made them slow moulters so he could compete distance races in July/August as three year olds. I have to say the DeWeerdt stock birds C.J. had, never bred anything of note but that could have been down to my predecessor who was a complete waste of space and way out of his depth.

 

Was it Emiel or Bernard the text u lost peter?

[peter pandy]

Was it Emiel or Bernard the text u lost peter?

 

Neither Wiley it was my ramblings which was about twice the length of the above.

[geordie1234]

Was it Piet or Henk you was referring to peter?

[dal2]

Well yesterday's post dissapeared so will endeavour to try again.

Thursday began with with the normal pre pairing dropping's samples and crop swabs making sure I was getting the cotton bud the full 10ins in !!, with the help from the wife you will understand where my measurements are coming from and posted to the Deweerd Laboratory for testing as I never blind treat apart from shoving 100mg Rodinazol tablet down a youngsters throat when weaning.

Its funny but when I see the Deweerd name I always think about Bernard De Weerdt from Kortemarke as he was a frequent visitor to C.J. Williams twice or thrice a year and we spent many an hour at the loft discussing all the topics of pigeon management under the sun. He was pleasantly surprised when I enquired about the late developement of his family and was their any particular reason why as his birds originated from the same source as C.J's namely Marcel Desmet who when living was another frequent visitor along with Senator La Haye, Van Bruanne, Van Der Espt and Maurice Delbar.

Bernard then told me that his entire young bird race team was sold every year apart from the odd youngster that had made its mark and at the end of Old Bird racing a team of late breds were reared which was the Yearling team for the following year. They were not trained until the following Spring and raced out to 150 miles. So basically they became late developers with his entire race team starting out as a late bred which to his reckoning made them slow moulters so he could compete distance races in July/August as three year olds. I have to say the DeWeerdt stock birds C.J. had, never bred anything of note but that could have been down to my predecessor who was a complete waste of space and way out of his depth.

I think it's a hard enuff game peter without racing a team if latebreds every year

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Strangely, my current situation has dictated that I race latebreds every year. They race out to 165 miles fairly successfully, return wise. Started with 18 last year and ended with 12. Similar the previous year. Last year the previous ones went to 280 miles with 3 / 3 and some others that didn't go as far, probably around 6 or 7 all out to 200 miles. Just have to take them a bit slower, but some of that is down to my setup and allowable time.

[peter pandy]

Aye its a funny auld game right enough but I have to say I have had a lot of good Late Breds that have won positions out to 600 miles. <_<

[peter pandy]

Another beautiful day yesterday and as I came out the loft at 1300 hrs wondered where all my cocks were ?. On looking skyward many dots appeared far more than I had out and racing around until they took off heading North with what I believe was two Peregrines chasing them. 5 minutes later some reappeared still very high up and dived down to the loft. A head count later said that all was well and will ascertain later to-day if the other local guys have dropped any. My neighbour Eddy whose loft is 100 yards away watched all this and commented he was glad he had not put his out as he is want to do to get his in amongst mine for a decent fly and it was the same with Albert as his had been out and were back in for the usual Saturday coffee afternoon and putting the world to rights.

Having just recieved a phone call with a bit of bad news from a mate it is beyond belief that some so called fanciers can be real sh#ts who are quite happy to accept donations from me for £100 yet cannot return a little help that would cost them nothing but rest assured they have just lost roughly £500 income this year for their inability to see further than the end of their beaks.

[peter pandy]

It looks like nobody lost a bird yesterday to the scum of the sky and hopefully it will remain that way. I watched the birds to-day when they all cocked their heads skyward and lo and behold the very answer to all our prayers if we had the balls to do it. It was a parachute attached to an engine with a propeller for manouvrability which I am sure most of us have seen at one time or another. Now just imagine "I am good at that" when the scum are sitting their nest flying close to them would have them off and more future scum would be lost.

Before anybody posts it It could not be me as I dont like heights as already demonstrated in an earlier diatribe. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[peter pandy]

Have my sample results to hand and am all clear apart from a light Hairworm problem which will be cleared up as soon as the cure is delivered which will be to-morrow. No blind treating in my loft pays dividends in fact I dont have a medicine chest. Whilst on the phone with Belgica he was telling me they are introducing a product for water treatment and I think I may have upset him when I asked how they could produce such a treatment when the water content through out the U.K differs from area to area ie, Hard, Soft, Acidic or Alkaline surely we would require P.H. meters to define what's what. The phone suddenly went dead.. I kid you not.

[peter pandy]

Was it Piet or Henk you was referring to peter?

Sorry Geordie just notice your post and must ask who are Piet or Henk ??.

[peter pandy]

Sorry Geordie just notice your post and must ask who are Piet or Henk ??.

Just clocked what you are on about and if you look closely their is a "T" after Bernard and no "T" after P&H DEWEERD and DEWEERDT

[geordie1234]

So I take it it was Fillip then

[peter pandy]

So I take it it was Fillip then

Perhaps I could reply if you were to elaborate on the question !!!.

[peter pandy]

1st of the month and the birds were given FlightPath on the feed as per my routine, I dont know if it does any good however I get peace of mind knowing that they are having a bacterial boost.

Over the years when success was easily gained I always paired up on the full moon in March for the simple reason of having the distance candidates on their third round of eggs and while doing so other forces would come into play.

 

(1). The young will be opening their eyes on the April full moon and the nestlings will be going on to hard feed with 15 hours of daylight one week later.

 

(2). The second round of eggs would be dummies with me attempting to have them sitting either 21 or 28 days depending on which race they would be going to so would have all their preparation work in that period of May into June.

 

(3). All going to plan they would go to the Gold Cup sitting third round 7 to 14 day eggs at marking.

 

Red tickets and Averages do not interest me any more and a result where I am trying is all that fulfills my ambitions.

[dal2]

1st of the month and the birds were given FlightPath on the feed as per my routine, I dont know if it does any good however I get peace of mind knowing that they are having a bacterial boost.

Over the years when success was easily gained I always paired up on the full moon in March for the simple reason of having the distance candidates on their third round of eggs and while doing so other forces would come into play.

 

(1). The young will be opening their eyes on the April full moon and the nestlings will be going on to hard feed with 15 hours of daylight one week later.

 

(2). The second round of eggs would be dummies with me attempting to have them sitting either 21 or 28 days depending on which race they would be going to so would have all their preparation work in that period of May into June.

 

(3). All going to plan they would go to the Gold Cup sitting third round 7 to 14 day eggs at marking.

 

Red tickets and Averages do not interest me any more and a result where I am trying is all that fulfills my ambitions.

What, in your opinion, are the drawbacks of introducing a natural system the end of may perhaps? setting yer nest condition for a channel race end of June beginning of July?

[peter pandy]

Steve,

I have in the past went into the loft and let the Hens out then cleaned their section. When done I have moved the Cocks through and cleaned their section before letting the hens return into the loft. When all the Hens are in the Cock section I let the Cocks out and give the Hens a light feed then move them back into their own section. When the Cocks are ready to come in they do so into their section and given a light feed. This is repeated in the evening and is not only TEDIOUS BUT BORING. what is their to see in the loft ? Nothing but birds doing nothing.

I could not do this any more as I miss the Natural events of things such as Cocks and Hens playing with each other, Hens trying to get back on nests in the afternoon. Chasing each other about the sky and clapping wings to-gether. HAPPINESS and CONTENTMENT not only for the birds but me as well in April May June July August sitting in my conservatory or in the sunshine on the lawn. That is to me what Racing Pigeons is about and it dont include Roundabout any more.

I hope that answers your question.

[dal2]

Steve,

I have in the past went into the loft and let the Hens out then cleaned their section. When done I have moved the Cocks through and cleaned their section before letting the hens return into the loft. When all the Hens are in the Cock section I let the Cocks out and give the Hens a light feed then move them back into their own section. When the Cocks are ready to come in they do so into their section and given a light feed. This is repeated in the evening and is not only TEDIOUS BUT BORING. what is their to see in the loft ? Nothing but birds doing nothing.

I could not do this any more as I miss the Natural events of things such as Cocks and Hens playing with each other, Hens trying to get back on nests in the afternoon. Chasing each other about the sky and clapping wings to-gether. HAPPINESS and CONTENTMENT not only for the birds but me as well in April May June July August sitting in my conservatory or in the sunshine on the lawn. That is to me what Racing Pigeons is about and it dont include Roundabout any more.

I hope that answers your question.

perfectly........its just a personal choice......mine is that natural has too many variables for most of the year so only tend to use it when it suits me

[peter pandy]

Surely when a system is interesting all year round with differing variables happening all the time it becomes more intense. Sifting the wheat from the chaff makes you a better and more knowledgeable fancier to my mind. If you are unable to observe what is happening in the loft then you can be missing an exceptional degree of form and pleasure knowing you were able to spot and act on your observation enabling your first bird home you have picked out beforehand with confidence in a race gives greater satisfaction than wondering why it performed so well. It may only do it once in its lifetime but you were able to recognise and act on it. Thats what Natural does and other systems dont.