ALF Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Do we make pigeon racing hard for ourselves sometimes? I'm no into all the science of pigeons we just work them hard and send them every week plenty of grub plenty of exercise and hope for the best....
dal2 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Do we make pigeon racing hard for ourselves sometimes? I'm no into all the science of pigeons we just work them hard and send them every week plenty of grub plenty of exercise and hope for the best....Do you tho Alan? I think you might have a wee look at the cock that's clapping roon the sky or the hen that's real keen on the nest?? You will find that the things theses guys are talking about are there in your doos ......its just you are looking at other things.....that's why it's no easy
ALF Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 nae cocks chasing but plenty clapping aboot the place or hens sitting in our loft during racing we raced them 100% roundabout this year done ok as for picking our pooler fkn hopeless lol
dal2 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 nae cocks chasing but plenty clapping aboot the place or hens sitting in our loft during racing we raced them 100% roundabout this year done ok as for picking our pooler fkn hopeless lolPay mare attention lol
ALF Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Pay mare attention lol :emoticon-0140-rofl:
St Finnan Loft Posted September 24, 2016 Report Posted September 24, 2016 Meant to say earlier pigeons also let some heat out through tiny minute holes in their feathers on the wing particularly during long hrs on the wing. http://www.racingpigeonmall.com/loft/articles/dewpoint.html Do not know if this article is cosha.
peter pandy Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Posted September 25, 2016 http://www.racingpigeonmall.com/loft/articles/dewpoint.html Do not know if this article is cosha. Having read the article and some further articles written by the author John Vance, He has no scientific back up rather he is promoting his company "Racing Pigeon Mall Store" and the products he sells.
peter pandy Posted September 25, 2016 Author Report Posted September 25, 2016 One little experiment we as fanciers can carry out and probably have is.. Drive your car at 40-45 MPH and stick your hand out the window, After a couple of minutes your mit will be frozen.. Now pigeons fly at approx 2000+ Feet and its blinking cold up there which was something I never really thought about until Scotland's past top distance man said to me.. The pigeons you see racing at 100 feet are the also rans as they are unfit..The really fit pigeons are the ones that get up into the thermals where the air is thinner and they can fly through the air faster..Heavy Pigeons cannot get up there where the ones that are blown up and light can. An experiment I tried a number of years ago was to take a Mealy Cock which was "blown up" a 75 mile single up toss from Gretna. when liberated I watched it climb up till it was a speck in the sky "Binoculars on it" then motored home back up the M74 as fast as I could breaking speed limits the entire way [allegedly] and the Mealy beat me home..Oh and before I forget he had thick feathering across the keel.
peter pandy Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Posted September 27, 2016 Going through all the birds to-day now the stock loft is empty and although many are still the worse for wear with the moult I came to the conclusion that all was as well as could be expected at this time of year with just the one having a mark against it and has 24 hours to perk up or it will be elsewhere.My Winter Robin put in an appearance yesterday so will have to get some mealworms for him and a feline paid its one and only visit to the loft, Luckily the birds were ensconced within and were unaware of the commotion underneath their feet.
peter pandy Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Posted September 28, 2016 Much has been written about YBS, One Eye Cold, and other ailments which I have never suffered in my loft with birds bred by myself yet when remarked upon I am a liar or worse still talking P""H.I was of the impression that O,E,Cold was dead and buried years ago and here we are with some fanciers still getting it. Salmonella was spoken about and all the self taught Veteranians pop up with the cure without first seeing the bird just the symptoms, and we wont go down the line with the YBS syndrome.When I see multiple winners being clocked in a race my first thought is what are they giving them because it just is not normal for one person to dominate a result week in week out unless he/she is in a very favourable loft location, sending big teams, or they are on anti's which no one is going to admit doing. IMO.The bird I remarked about in yesterday's diatribe was given a reprieve as the stuff I stuck down its nose resulted in a clearing pink wattle and a lovely shade of pink throat and tongue which was grey 24hrs ago..
dal2 Posted September 28, 2016 Report Posted September 28, 2016 Much has been written about YBS, One Eye Cold, and other ailments which I have never suffered in my loft with birds bred by myself yet when remarked upon I am a liar or worse still talking P""H.I was of the impression that O,E,Cold was dead and buried years ago and here we are with some fanciers still getting it. Salmonella was spoken about and all the self taught Veteranians pop up with the cure without first seeing the bird just the symptoms, and we wont go down the line with the YBS syndrome.When I see multiple winners being clocked in a race my first thought is what are they giving them because it just is not normal for one person to dominate a result week in week out unless he/she is in a very favourable loft location, sending big teams, or they are on anti's which no one is going to admit doing. IMO.The bird I remarked about in yesterday's diatribe was given a reprieve as the stuff I stuck down its nose resulted in a clearing pink wattle and a lovely shade of pink throat and tongue which was grey 24hrs ago..Peter.........yer talking P*** lol
peter pandy Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Posted September 29, 2016 STRESS !!!, Now what is that all about, I dont know what to look for so perhaps mine are permanently stressed out or perhaps they arent stressed at all.I retrieved my old Oxford dictionary printed 1962,, Yes I know I live in the past but it is sometimes enlightening to look up words and find they are only recently introduced into our vocabulary. COMPUTER for instance is defined as an electronic apparatus for making calculations and STRESS in human or animal has never been recognised, In actual fact Human stress was really only identified in 1998 and can only be defined by Lateral Thought. Now pigeons or animals dont have Lateral Thought so cannot get Stress.. End of Lesson perhaps.
Delboy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) STRESS !!!, Now what is that all about, I dont know what to look for so perhaps mine are permanently stressed out or perhaps they arent stressed at all.I retrieved my old Oxford dictionary printed 1962,, Yes I know I live in the past but it is sometimes enlightening to look up words and find they are only recently introduced into our vocabulary. COMPUTER for instance is defined as an electronic apparatus for making calculations and STRESS in human or animal has never been recognised, In actual fact Human stress was really only identified in 1998 and can only be defined by Lateral Thought. Now pigeons or animals dont have Lateral Thought so cannot get Stress.. End of Lesson perhaps. What the fk is a fret mark?? The crankometer is getting higher on this site day by day lol.Ill tell ye something Peter, this is one of yer best wans yet LOL.Have you witnessed a doo getting chased by a peregrine or getting cornered into a top corner of a loft by a stoat or a cat, the expression on their coupons is definitely STRESS. Edited September 29, 2016 by Delboy
geordie1234 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 What the fk is a fret mark?? The crankometer is getting higher on this site day by day lol.Ill tell ye something Peter, this is one of yer best wans yet LOL.Have you witnessed a doo getting chased by a peregrine or getting cornered into a top corner of a loft by a stoat or a cat, the expression on their coupons is definitely STRESS.White coat time
Guest johnhunter Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 make it two white coats , one for roland lol
Delboy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 make it two white coats , one for roland lol lol, my lateral thinking is getting me stressed reading all this sh ite on here Jimmy.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 STRESS !!!, Now what is that all about, I dont know what to look for so perhaps mine are permanently stressed out or perhaps they arent stressed at all.I retrieved my old Oxford dictionary printed 1962,, Yes I know I live in the past but it is sometimes enlightening to look up words and find they are only recently introduced into our vocabulary. COMPUTER for instance is defined as an electronic apparatus for making calculations and STRESS in human or animal has never been recognised, In actual fact Human stress was really only identified in 1998 and can only be defined by Lateral Thought. Now pigeons or animals dont have Lateral Thought so cannot get Stress.. End of Lesson perhaps. I'm beginning to wonder if you have lateral thought Peter .Throw that auld book away, regardless of how many groats it cost you, and look up the current Oxford Dictionary definition on your electronic apparatus for making calculations
Guest johnhunter Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 One little experiment we as fanciers can carry out and probably have is.. Drive your car at 40-45 MPH and stick your hand out the window, After a couple of minutes your mit will be frozen.. Now pigeons fly at approx 2000+ Feet and its blinking cold up there which was something I never really thought about until Scotland's past top distance man said to me.. The pigeons you see racing at 100 feet are the also rans as they are unfit..The really fit pigeons are the ones that get up into the thermals where the air is thinner and they can fly through the air faster..Heavy Pigeons cannot get up there where the ones that are blown up and light can. An experiment I tried a number of years ago was to take a Mealy Cock which was "blown up" a 75 mile single up toss from Gretna. when liberated I watched it climb up till it was a speck in the sky "Binoculars on it" then motored home back up the M74 as fast as I could breaking speed limits the entire way [allegedly] and the Mealy beat me home..Oh and before I forget he had thick feathering across the keel.I would think this is the best one yet
tiger Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 Peter why waste your time trying to help people?, *expletive removed* ling plonkers smile ☺
Guest johnhunter Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 Peter why waste your time trying to help people?, *expletive removed* ling plonkers smile ☺the thai bhoy has spoken lol
Darnaway Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 Peter your comment about multiple winners is an interesting point and from my perspective some people put a lot of work into their birds and have success without having them on antibiotics, From my perspective with having some clinical knowledge Antibiotics have a time and a place and whilst I fully agree that it is inappropriate to indiscriminately medicate there are occasions when it's appropriate Loft location and wind play a part but as the distance goes out then the fancier and their methods also play an important part in my opinion
peter pandy Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Posted September 29, 2016 Peter why waste your time trying to help people?, *expletive removed* ling plonkers smile ☺Being thick skinned and having a sense of humour, help's John, Plus a knowledge of what I am talking about, coupled with the experience of attempting to educate the uninformed gives a bit of satisfaction.
Delboy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 Being thick skinned and having a sense of humour, help's John, Plus a knowledge of what I am talking about, coupled with the experience of attempting to educate the uninformed gives a bit of satisfaction. Great response Pedro lol
peter pandy Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Posted September 29, 2016 Great response Pedro lolI really appreciate the fact you enjoyed my riposte Del !.
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