hotrod Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I would class 4 firsts as being 4 individual firsts from 4 different races100% correct George ,
hotrod Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Quick question to all , what if you were 2nd 3rd or 4th. Club ,but won the 3bird club. Would that be a first ? Not for me but I've seen guys that say this won this and that , but it's 2/3bird club wins .
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Quick question to all , what if you were 2nd 3rd or 4th. Club ,but won the 3bird club. Would that be a first ? Not for me but I've seen guys that say this won this and that , but it's 2/3bird club wins .Not a win for me What about if you won the national section but someone who was only fed flying won the fed bt you won the sec in nat? Think it would take the cream off my section win (if I ever get one) Knowing that there was a doo better than mine on the day??
Wiley Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I've never understood people advertising 2 bird or 3 bird clubs as a win, it has always been a side bet down here, nothing more.
eastcoaster Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Give my birds 5 x2 nd Lanarkshire Feds and call them all you want they are champions to me , if a bird gets in top 10/20 of a race with 2/3/4 plus thousand doos they are worth having . Not always best doo wins race .
moscow master Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 The bird ,horse,athlete,that wins is always the best not the 3rd,4th,5th or what ever werent good enough on the day the winners the best I don't see anyone at the club hut saying well done you were 5th its always the winner that gets the handshake
Guest stb- Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 The bird ,horse,athlete,that wins is always the best not the 3rd,4th,5th or what ever werent good enough on the day the winners the best I don't see anyone at the club hut saying well done you were 5th its always the winner that gets the handshakecorrect show me a second ill show you a losser lol they will be making it non competative races soon just like the school sports days every ones a winner its about taking part AYE KN RIGHT lol
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 The bird ,horse,athlete,that wins is always the best not the 3rd,4th,5th or what ever werent good enough on the day the winners the best I don't see anyone at the club hut saying well done you were 5th its always the winner that gets the handshakeIn national racing it's completely diff tho Ricky....someone that has topped the sec 5,6,7 or 8 times imo is better than someone who has won it once???
Mossgiel Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Plenty of top top national fanciers have never won the national,most great/good national birds have scored and maybe won a section,silver and gold awards also these are champion national birds but again have not won a national. Ps takes a good/decent bird to even make the clock at 500/600miles these days. Yes, the late Jock Allan springs to mind.
moscow master Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 In national racing it's completely diff tho Ricky....someone that has topped the sec 5,6,7 or 8 times imo is better than someone who has won it once???Got to disagree geordie as you could win the section 6 times from the ybn in ayrshire and not get an open position but win it well thats something else your all in the same transporter and all have the same chance imo
geordie1234 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Got to disagree geordie as you could win the section 6 times from the ybn in ayrshire and not get an open position but win it well thats something else your all in the same transporter and all have the same chance imoguys like hannah donaldson etc they hivny won a national bt they are legends in the sport
VMS Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 guys like hannah donaldson etc they hivny won a national bt they are legends in the sportAye but how many would they have won if they were to move to a more favourable location Geo,a good few I would bet.
peter pandy Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 1 race 1 first , no fairy stories lolDid not think it was a fairy story Rab, However in the 60s-70s the North West Fed had 800 members and about 100 were in the 3 bird Championship club which to my mind was far superior to club or Fed racing due to all being on a level par with 3 nominated birds competing for pools. To my mind it picked out the fancier who could condition his birds rather than those who sent 40+ and could'nt pick their nose. Mob fliers are the downfall of many a club which includes the national.
moscow master Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 guys like hannah donaldson etc they hivny won a national bt they are legends in the sportDefo am not saying otherwise ask any of them if they could swap their section wins in the gold cup for a first in the gold cup and am sure they'd swap as thats what the aim is first prize
alec guinness Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Got to disagree geordie as you could win the section 6 times from the ybn in ayrshire and not get an open position but win it well thats something else your all in the same transporter and all have the same chance imo Canny believe that you have looked at a YBN result with the above train of thought??
yeboah Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Defo am not saying otherwise ask any of them if they could swap their section wins in the gold cup for a first in the gold cup and am sure they'd swap as thats what the aim is first prizeGot to agree Ricky Get behind the piper and name in that wee book for life everyone's Goal We pay club fees fed fees national fees to compete so if it wins Firsts all the way in my eyes
hotrod Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Not a win for me What about if you won the national section but someone who was only fed flying won the fed bt you won the sec in nat? Think it would take the cream off my section win (if I ever get one) Knowing that there was a doo better than mine on the day??To me that's the problem with taking birds that are not entered in the national , never mind winning the section what about winning the race outright but there's a fed bird doing a higher velocity . Think the main races in both national clubs should always be national birds only IMHO .think it's ok in inlands and young birds .
WHITTY Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I DISAGREE WITH YOU MOB FLYER ARE THE BACK BONE OF EVERY CLUB AND NATIONALS WITH OUT THEM I CANT EMAGINE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP THEM GOING
Kyleakin Lofts Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Defo am not saying otherwise ask any of them if they could swap their section wins in the gold cup for a first in the gold cup and am sure they'd swap as thats what the aim is first prize Right now, my aim is any prize. Once I achieve that aim, then the sights will be raised. Without doubt, 1st National Blue Riband Race is the main aim, but there are many targets to achieve on the road towards that aim.
Guest stb- Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 I DISAGREE WITH YOU MOB FLYER ARE THE BACK BONE OF EVERY CLUB AND NATIONALS WITH OUT THEM I CANT EMAGINE WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP THEM GOINGif every one only sent 2 a widny like to paye the deisel to go
moscow master Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 Canny believe that you have looked at a YBN result with the above train of thought?? I can change that to any snfc race to be honest John for example you could be 20 hours behind the winner of the national in ayrshire and still win the region I personally wouldn't be sticking my chest out at that but some think this is fantastic flying infact the winner could of been sent back and still beat the region winner home but this is only my take on the subject most national winners will pass by dozens of top lofts on their way home i wonder how many lofts the Ypres winner past last season ? For me its hats off to the winner irrespective of where you live and not taking the edge of the winner by saying the best doo in the race was 30th open the winners the best simple as that
peter pandy Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 if every one only sent 2 a widny like to paye the deisel to go If every National Member sent 2 that would be 2000 going to the Gold Cup !! A bit more than at present..
Guest stb- Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 If every National Member sent 2 that would be 2000 going to the Gold Cup !! A bit more than at present..aye but if the ones that do send only sent 2 we wid be donald ducked ,,not a lot go to it If every National Member sent 2 that would be 2000 going to the Gold Cup !! A bit more than at present..a dont think there 1000 members is there ??
VMS Posted January 28, 2015 Report Posted January 28, 2015 aye but if the ones that do send only sent 2 we wid be donald ducked ,,not a lot go to it a dont think there 1000 members is there ??Apparently there is mate as WE the good guys need 10% 100 votes to call a EGM. :emoticon-0167-beer:
VAGIN Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Posted January 29, 2015 Apparently there is mate as WE the good guys need 10% 100 votes to call a EGM. :emoticon-0167-beer: I dont think the question asked has anything to do with an EGM .Thats another thread surely
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