Full Brother & Sister

[tiger]

i had pair late breds last year that had taken with each other this is full bother and sister pairing would you race or keep for stock ? the sire was 2nd open and the dame 3 & 4 th open so it carries this on both sides . views please btw its a hen ,

[bullcock]

These could make good stock birds when crossed with distantly related or full cross birds, but as for racing if they are first generation inbred (both parents aren't closely related) they should be fine for racing.

I would breed off them and maybe train and lightly race them this year to see how the young birds do, if the young birds look promising you may have found a good pair of breeders.

[dal2]

Hen should be kept for stock and paired with an uncle

[Guest vice president]

I WILL HAVE THE HEN :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[Valiant Fifer]

Have had a few winners from this pairing Tiger surprisingly, and they also bred winners!

[Guest thomas mcgowan]

Sooner or later your asking for trouble

[bibendium]

Doing the rounds on FB at present , dont know how credible it is though

[peter pandy]

Would put the young hens to a full brother of the sire and the other to a full brother of the dam then send me a pair of them.

[bullcock]

Doing the rounds on FB at present , dont know how credible it is though

I have seen this first hand, mate bred a two young birds mixed together.

[just ask me]

niece paired to a uncle is about as close as i go best of luck with it and have had good birds paired like this

 

 

i would def cross the offspring though too much inbreeding generation after generation i dont like

[walterboswell59]

id breed back in untill they show weakness or stop winning john cock to aunt hen to uncle

lol thats better

Edited December 22, 2014 by walterboswell59

[frank-123]

id breed back in untill they show weakness or stop winning john cock to uncle hen to aunt

 

You wouldn't get much out of them. Lol

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Doing the rounds on FB at present , dont know how credible it is though

 

Charlie, I had a full brother / sister mating last year and all 3 rounds were ok, whereas about 5 years ago I had a cross pairing where 1 chick only had half a wing.

To me this, alongside the breeding knowledge acquired after 25 years dog breeding, shows that sports can arrive from any mating.

[Kyleakin Lofts]

Brother to sister is not that close. Consider the number of genes carried on each chromosome and the number of chromosomes within a pigeon. If you are into maths, the possible variations are many. The mating is fairly neutral considering no real gain is to be made from it. This pairing carried out down through the filial generations is a different matter, but we are talking about a one off, even though it may be within a family line.

[tiger]

These could make good stock birds when crossed with distantly related or full cross birds, but as for racing if they are first generation inbred (both parents aren't closely related) they should be fine for racing.

I would breed off them and maybe train and lightly race them this year to see how the young birds do, if the young birds look promising you may have found a good pair of breeders.

 

 

going 2 pair her 2 a inbred son of rainbow warrior <jan polder >

[hotrod]

i had pair late breds last year that had taken with each other this is full bother and sister pairing would you race or keep for stock ? the sire was 2nd open and the dame 3 & 4 th open so it carries this on both sides . views please btw its a hen ,

Think it all depends on the sire and dam if they are very closely related, if so a cross if not pair uncle to niece and aunt to nephew . I'm sure you will know what to do John .

[yeboah]

Paired Saddleback the cock I was 2nd Open with to his Aunt

The pair from their first nest have performed wonderfully well

The next two nests they produced two silver mealy s and a silver blue which will be kept as stock and crossed

Both saddleback and his aunt are blues and were paired in a secure section

Will take care of his son as I think he will outshine his dad

Now why did I say that lol

[Valiant Fifer]

I think a cock or hen from a brother sister pairing would be fine if the parents were good pigeons and not just putting a bother & sister together for the sake of it. The son could be put to his Auntie and the hen might be tried with her Uncle, this should give good results but you would probably have to cross them out somewhere along the line at some stage.

 

Another way would be to put either one off the brother x sister pairing to another inbred pigeon from a completely unrelated family. The offspring would have what is called the Hybrid and although both sides are inbred you will find out the offspring have plenty of vigour! The other inbred should also be a very good pigeon or from a pair of top pigeons. It would be more of a hit or a miss when you put question mark to question mark if you get my drift! It deffo helps a lot if these inbred birds are already good or from top class performance birds! No ??? to ??? !!!

Hope this is some help to you Tiger

[Smithy1]

going 2 pair her 2 a inbred son of rainbow warrior <jan polder >

 

 

Didnt know and never thought you were a distance man, all the best with them m8...