Quill Mite

[walterboswell59]

I noticed birds I had brought in this year had quill lice, As I give quite a lot of Garlic in the drinker and vinegar in the bath their is no more lice on them. I Have in the past dipped them in Chlorocarb,Duramitex and some other I forget which, and found that, yes it cleared the feathers, but also removed the oils from them and the only way you can tell if they have recovered what you have taken out is when the tail feathers have ceased loking bedraggled after a bath. Has any one noticed that latebreds with nest feathers especially the tail take hours to dry out, so imagine what they are like when racing and get drenched in a heavy shower. Perhaps we should be aware of the chance of showers when racing / training them with the possibility they will be put down with no opportunity of rising again. JMO.

cant say ive noticed this peter but ill watch for it in future food for thought m8

[Tony C]

forgot to ask you do you put vinegar in the bath water as i said thats something i have not tried if so how much do you put in

I myself roughly put in 10mls per litre, find its the most economical and best way to keep them free of creepy-crawlies.

[Guest thomas mcgowan]

I spray th

[Guest thomas mcgowan]

I spray the lofts with poultry shield and bath with borax, a wee drop of tea tree oil and the birds are looking good for the show pen

[just ask me]

Cydectin. :emoticon-0140-rofl: .

Please forward any PM'S to J. A. M. :emoticon-0136-giggle:

 

 

 

thanks for letting me know about it mate your a fountain of knowledge billy is a good sort and im sure he will answer any questions you may have lol

[MIK]

fly and wasp killer from your local supermarket...works a treat and no harm to the birds...£1.00 a tin

[Dooheed 5]

forgot to ask you do you put vinegar in the bath water as i said thats something i have not tried if so how much do you put in

5 litre container of Cider Vinegar that has had Quite a few Garlic cloves added and left ti mix ! Could'ne tell ye how much measurement wise ti be honest ! jist a good 2 or 3 Glugs !!

[William Reid]

thanks for letting me know about it mate your a fountain of knowledge billy is a good sort and im sure he will answer any questions you may have lol

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[walterboswell59]

5 litre container of Cider Vinegar that has had Quite a few Garlic cloves added and left ti mix ! Could'ne tell ye how much measurement wise ti be honest ! jist a good 2 or 3 Glugs !!

ill give it a try m8

[buster151]

seen this on another site

 

Ivemectin Sheep Drench 3 cc’s to a gallon in the bath water will kill all parasites, lice, mites, flies, depluming mites etc. Give twice monthly and the birds will be pest free. It can be used as a spray, 10 cc’s to the gallon on the loft walls and nests to kill parasites and it is not harmful or will give off any fumes. Never get Ivermectin on your skin or it will penetrate into you. If you are spraying it wear protective gear like a mask and overall suit. Never inhale mist. We have not used anything but ivermectin for parasites in several years. One bath will totally eliminate the stubborn quill mite.

[Valiant Fifer]

I remember one year I dipped the ob's in Duramitex, it was a disaster for me. Firstly in front of another fancier I dipped them on the Thursday (stupidly) before the first ob race. The sun was shinning but there was a north east wind blowing at the time which didn't seem too bad, at least that's what I stupidly thought at the time. Next morning I got a shock when entering the loft. There was a pair of dead ybs in one of the bottom nest boxes which had died from the severe cold that night. I left the windows open thinking it would help dry the birds. Instead the obs only covered the youngsters for a short while obviously getting them wet and with not enough feathers on them at the time they perished. I also had to put another two single ybs in other nests out their misery! Luckily for me most of my ybs were shifted at the time or a good few more would have suffered the same fate.

 

However its a lesson learned guys iv'e never done it again. Please take my advice and remember if dipping them to do it in say June when its warm! The other thing was I sent most of the team to the race. I remember the lads on the ringer saying hell almighty whats that smell when the birds were in their hands and we had a good laugh about it at the time! Yes no doubt the birds were clean but they struggled in the race and I lost a few that day I never expected to loose. I thought they were slow in their next few training tosses so I thought around midweek that's it no more i'll just let them sit around in the sun. I was concerned further as they were late on the saturday. However I had relised mid week that the Duramitex had left what I would describe as a film on their feathers. So I decided no more training for the 3rd race and just let them laze about again from the sunday til the next race. The sun had came out a bit between basketing for 2nd race and 3rd race which seemed to help as I won the 3rd race and the birds were in better condition with good returns!

 

Obviously I dipped them too near the start of racing and also should have done it when weather was warmer. Deffo takes a few weeks to get the feathers back into the condition they should be in and as some pb members have said lord help them if they get caught in heavy showers for it will deffo effect them and maybe pull them down. I had previously dipped them with no problems but was caught out here. Since then iv'e used powder or one spot on neck! A hard lesson learned, don't do what I did above lol!!!

[andy Burgess]

I remember one year I dipped the ob's in Duramitex, it was a disaster for me. Firstly in front of another fancier I dipped them on the Thursday (stupidly) before the first ob race. The sun was shinning but there was a north east wind blowing at the time which didn't seem too bad, at least that's what I stupidly thought at the time. Next morning I got a shock when entering the loft. There was a pair of dead ybs in one of the bottom nest boxes which had died from the severe cold that night. I left the windows open thinking it would help dry the birds. Instead the obs only covered the youngsters for a short while obviously getting them wet and with not enough feathers on them at the time they perished. I also had to put another two single ybs in other nests out their misery! Luckily for me most of my ybs were shifted at the time or a good few more would have suffered the same fate.

 

However its a lesson learned guys iv'e never done it again. Please take my advice and remember if dipping them to do it in say June when its warm! The other thing was I sent most of the team to the race. I remember the lads on the ringer saying hell almighty whats that smell when the birds were in their hands and we had a good laugh about it at the time! Yes no doubt the birds were clean but they struggled in the race and I lost a few that day I never expected to loose. I thought they were slow in their next few training tosses so I thought around midweek that's it no more i'll just let them sit around in the sun. I was concerned further as they were late on the saturday. However I had relised mid week that the Duramitex had left what I would describe as a film on their feathers. So I decided no more training for the 3rd race and just let them laze about again from the sunday til the next race. The sun had came out a bit between basketing for 2nd race and 3rd race which seemed to help as I won the 3rd race and the birds were in better condition with good returns!

 

Obviously I dipped them too near the start of racing and also should have done it when weather was warmer. Deffo takes a few weeks to get the feathers back into the condition they should be in and as some pb members have said lord help them if they get caught in heavy showers for it will deffo effect them and maybe pull them down. I had previously dipped them with no problems but was caught out here. Since then iv'e used powder or one spot on neck! A hard lesson learned, don't do what I did above lol!!!

 

 

a good honest post , hopefully novices wont fall foul with the same mistake

[gsb]

I put cider vinegar in my bath because it raises the ph in the water and stop cross contamination from birds droppings and it also kills bacteriabacteria

and it helps reduce lice because of the acid in it

[John k]

Potassium Permanganate.

[kingziemckay]

Potassium Permanganate.

 

 

i have used the same and works great,takes a week or 2 till there gone,out the quill

[walterboswell59]

i have used the same and works great,takes a week or 2 till there gone,out the quill

ive used this for years m8 and it does not kill quill mite only worked for me the first few times i used it then they came back stronger than ever and i know others have found the same

[kingziemckay]

ive used this for years m8 and it does not kill quill mite only worked for me the first few times i used it then they came back stronger than ever and i know others have found the same

 

 

i did spray them with permithren first,then used pommy in there bath water after that,

and never had anymore problems,

 

atb

[R.A.M.C.63]

What problems do these mite cause if left ??. can see dis-advantage if you Shown birds. thanks

 

BUMP Still no answers to above Q.

[kingziemckay]

BUMP Still no answers to above Q.

 

 

it messes the flights up,so i have noticed,

[John k]

http://www.pigeoninflight.com/index.php/external-parasites-of-pigeons

[walterboswell59]

i did spray them with permithren first,then used pommy in there bath water after that,

and never had anymore problems,

 

atb

ive been told vinegar so i will be trying that when the weather is a bit better and they want in the bath

[kingziemckay]

ive been told vinegar so i will be trying that when the weather is a bit better and they want in the bath

 

 

was also told cider vinegar is ment to be good,

but used permithren and pommy and havent ever

had anymore probs,

[R.A.M.C.63]

it messes the flights up,so i have noticed,

 

Intresting Kingzie, never noticed any damage done, bet 99% birds on transporter

every week got them, was always led to believe they were mite EGGS which

wouldn,t do much damage being Eggs, and cure if that bothered was johnstons

powder or any other loft white, even talc, it drys out mosture in them and

they Fall off SIMPLES, soft tooth brush to remove if Shown,

 

ps. kingzie are you aware that elgin club Agm on sunday if you joining, ATB

[gulkie]

For the new starts if you Are unsure if your birds have quill mite

Go into the loft in the dark ,And take a look at their flights with a

Torch ,if your birds have them you will see them ,as for getting

Rid there Are Plenty tips on here ,you decide what you want to

Use .

[kingziemckay]

Intresting Kingzie, never noticed any damage done, bet 99% birds on transporter

every week got them, was always led to believe they were mite EGGS which

wouldn,t do much damage being Eggs, and cure if that bothered was johnstons

powder or any other loft white, even talc, it drys out mosture in them and

they Fall off SIMPLES, soft tooth brush to remove if Shown,

 

ps. kingzie are you aware that elgin club Agm on sunday if you joining, ATB

 

the flights same very dry with gaps and brittle,so i have noticed,with quill mite

 

yes iam aware mate,atb