eastcoaster Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 My lofts are surrounded by large tree,s and the loft has always got a damp atmosphere and is the same until around end of May hence I don't think my birds really come up until later than required , so have thought of these panels just to even the temp a bit ,Anyone any experience with them or decent opinion on if they would help , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I had the same problem, but thought heaters raising the temperature would make the birds less hardy. I've had some success with the damp by opening the loft right up to increase air circulation, and by using loft whitener on the floor, perches and boxes regularly. I suppose doing what I've done AND adding the heaters would sort it right out....I'd thought of tube heaters under the floor... Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulkie Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 My lofts are surrounded by large tree,s and the loft has always got a damp atmosphere and is the same until around end of May hence I don't think my birds really come up until later than required , so have thought of these panels just to even the temp a bit ,Anyone any experience with them or decent opinion on if they would help ,I would think more airflow rather than heat ,dont think heat in the loft is a good idea.OMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 My lofts are surrounded by large tree,s and the loft has always got a damp atmosphere and is the same until around end of May hence I don't think my birds really come up until later than required , so have thought of these panels just to even the temp a bit ,Anyone any experience with them or decent opinion on if they would help , its a problem ive been looking into since being here Colin , Peter Pandy has posted about having heating panels in his loft , PM him and ask , sure he will tell you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 My lofts are surrounded by large tree,s and the loft has always got a damp atmosphere and is the same until around end of May hence I don't think my birds really come up until later than required , so have thought of these panels just to even the temp a bit ,Anyone any experience with them or decent opinion on if they would help , I have ATX Swiss panels purchased at Blackpool and to me they are brilliant when working off either the Heater or Hygrometer (supplied). Go to ATX SUISSE and read for yourself the advantages. As far as I am concerned I would not be without them and reasonable to run cost wise. Last week when cleaning the loft I set the heater to 25c and forgot to switch it back over resulting 24 Hrs later in a loft full of down feathers. You can even give the birds a bath inside the loft and the floor will be dry within the hour.Their is a British agent but unfortunately I cannot find his number in my book.P.S. You are welcome to come over and see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I would think more airflow rather than heat ,dont think heat in the loft is a good idea.OMO.That is also a real problem with all the trees , you don't get a true airflow and have struggled a bit with airflow in the loft , the birds have won from the loft but feel they take too long to come into condition . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 its a problem ive been looking into since being here Colin , Peter Pandy has posted about having heating panels in his loft , PM him and ask , sure he will tell you . I have ATX Swiss panels purchased at Blackpool and to me they are brilliant when working off either the Heater or Hygrometer (supplied). Go to ATX SUISSE and read for yourself the advantages. As far as I am concerned I would not be without them and reasonable to run cost wise. Last week when cleaning the loft I set the heater to 25c and forgot to switch it back over resulting 24 Hrs later in a loft full of down feathers. You can even give the birds a bath inside the loft and the floor will be dry within the hour.Their is a British agent but unfortunately I cannot find his number in my book.P.S. You are welcome to come over and see for yourself. or just read the above post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I have ATX Swiss panels purchased at Blackpool and to me they are brilliant when working off either the Heater or Hygrometer (supplied). Go to ATX SUISSE and read for yourself the advantages. As far as I am concerned I would not be without them and reasonable to run cost wise. Last week when cleaning the loft I set the heater to 25c and forgot to switch it back over resulting 24 Hrs later in a loft full of down feathers. You can even give the birds a bath inside the loft and the floor will be dry within the hour.Their is a British agent but unfortunately I cannot find his number in my book.P.S. You are welcome to come over and see for yourself.Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive. mail me any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogga Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive. Frank Bristoe15, Sandygate LaneHorbling, SleafordLincolnshire NG34 0PHEnglandTel./Fax: 01529240548 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHigg Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive.get youre meter rigged problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive.he said they were too expensive for you| scrooge LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Frank Bristow is very honest and truthful and only too pleased to help and advise. I saw the improvement first hand both in winter and mid old birds season. Wish I could afford them lol. Mind did tell how to make do with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoaster Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 he said they were too expensive for you| scrooge LOLAm skint now I lost my glasses up at yours today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airdrie2 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Am skint now I lost my glasses up at yours today .??? how did you loss them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto b Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Frank Bristow is the uk agent , there is a cheaper price wise in Ireland that is the same spec as atx .May come and see yours in operation Peter .Spoke to frank at Blackpool last year and he said that he couldn't believe they worked so well and improved his loft massively he also admitted he thought they were far to exspensive. There is a heating panel system available in ireland from Autoloft , It is as good if not better than ATX and also not as expensive it is now being used by top lofts across ireland & the uk There is an ad in next weeks RP about the system feel free to pm me for any more info ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardenboy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 There is a heating panel system available in ireland from Autoloft , It is as good if not better than ATX and also not as expensive it is now being used by top lofts across ireland & the uk There is an ad in next weeks RP about the system feel free to pm me for any more info ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardenboy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Do you still have contact details for Autoloft. alan.mccullen@btinternet.com thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Waist of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 The only place you can heat is an enclosed space ,if you give the required ventilation to the birds it becomes useless doh!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardenboy Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 The only place you can heat is an enclosed space ,if you give the required ventilation to the birds it becomes useless doh!!!!This inquiry's for conservatorie heating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 My lofts are surrounded by large tree,s and the loft has always got a damp atmosphere and is the same until around end of May hence I don't think my birds really come up until later than required , so have thought of these panels just to even the temp a bit ,Anyone any experience with them or decent opinion on if they would help , Had the same problem when I moved here in 97. Have to be completely under the trees. I built 3 different lofts. No good. As soon as the damp or wet was in the trees the birds lost form very quickly ... and trees are nigh always damp. So last but one I had a wire mesh cover over the compartments with a false roof a foot over. This had a good 12 inches overlap. Wire meshed all around the top between THE ROOFS meant that the wind / breeze coursed through a treat nigh all the time ... but the damp being heavier meant dropping down ... so loss of form. I built a brick one, two years back. A tiled roof boarded out underneath. Three main compartments with two adjacent. Just a 22 inch trap, that can be either open hole or bob wires, with a trap door that shuts inside to completely block it in. Only AIR in is then through the air bricks ... 9 by 6 air bricks in each compartment. No other air into the loft. Always same temperature, feels cool in summer and warm in winter. Have an aviary that they can use during the day. Wet or damp nights completely closed up. Great for the moult too. So they can sit out in the rain, or go in, whatever they choose. BUT I control the damp and wet from the trees getting in. Yes I agree that one of the most important things ids free. Fresh air... Provided it is dry. Yes I know, and have been repeated advised, and warned, that the tiles need to be a bit ajar to let it breathe and air in etc. etc. BUT they aren't under damp trees, or leaves dropping water every where. This last one is great. Birds always in good condition. Maybe I toy with the idea still of a 12 inch tube as such and two car fans each side of the loft with slots that can be covered to draw the air through ... But then wake up and say 'Get sharp, that is why you built this loft... to get away from damp and wet air of the trees'! I use deep litter system now. I change the whole lot whilst just leaving some droppings in the loft. I mix white with garden lime and rub in and spread well the loft before laying the new easy bed down. Probably costs £76 a year.... Looked at Broken Cobbs, but can't seem to find a local stockist. Water is changed every day and placed in potting trays with NO holes in bottom. If and when I am going to ask the birds to do something different I take a handful of Garden lime and mx well in the drinkers, this is allowed to settle and to be used next day. Yes sometime I have a false board over a small water butt like bucket to draw out the chlorine as this will kill much good gut bacteria. Frank Bristow does a good price on heating panels if any one is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 The only place you can heat is an enclosed space ,if you give the required ventilation to the birds it becomes useless doh!!!! DOH !!! Its radiated heat and wish you would read up on technology before dribbling. :egyptian: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg50 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Well radiated or not as far as i was led to believe that all heat rises therefore ,air through bottom vents heat through roof vents ,have the laws of science changed ,and by the way sorry about the doh! thought it didnt mean to say it no offence meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter pandy Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Well radiated or not as far as i was led to believe that all heat rises therefore ,air through bottom vents heat through roof vents ,have the laws of science changed ,and by the way sorry about the doh! thought it didnt mean to say it no offence meant. Phil, ATX Radiated heat works on the same principal as the sun's rays. You can feel the heat 10 feet away and not burn your hand on the panel. Likewise the Hygrometer can be set at whatever moisture percentage you wish the panel to control. I found ATX absolutely marvellous when my loft was situated under trees removing damp and in my loft I have Ionising fans to control incoming ventilation. No offence was taken or meant regarding DOH or DRIBBLE :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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