andy Burgess Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Posted October 10, 2014 I think you should, I think you'd need to live in a very warm climate to be moisture free, doesn't sound like Scotland does it definetly not Bill
Tony C Posted October 11, 2014 Report Posted October 11, 2014 In my experience having the interior of lofts painted contributes towards a moisture problem.
geordie1234 Posted October 11, 2014 Report Posted October 11, 2014 My loft will be completely closed in next season
andy Burgess Posted October 11, 2014 Author Report Posted October 11, 2014 In my experience having the interior of lofts painted contributes towards a moisture problem. the walls are painted Tony , the loft is 2nd hand and had been painted several times before . the floor ,ceiling and boxes arent tho ?
showman Posted October 11, 2014 Report Posted October 11, 2014 After reading the contributions by others and more important your own, I think this could be a case of 'Much ado about nothing'. Your 'rusty bar' is natural, caused by moisture in the air within the loft. All air contains moisture to varying degrees. Rest assured, my friend, a problem of moisture excess will soon manifest itself. For a start you'd smell it !! OMO.
buster151 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 https://www.aldi.co.uk/typo3temp/pics/W42_PD_Thursday_New_UL36_6b37b8f36d.jpg https://www.aldi.co.uk/typo3temp/pics/W42_PD_Thursday_New_UL34_dafab38599.jpg
andy Burgess Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Posted October 13, 2014 https://www.aldi.co.uk/typo3temp/pics/W42_PD_Thursday_New_UL36_6b37b8f36d.jpg https://www.aldi.co.uk/typo3temp/pics/W42_PD_Thursday_New_UL34_dafab38599.jpg i picked 1 up today , have "popped " it in the loft ? will see if it collects any moisture or not , then take it from there ?
buster151 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 I get a wet floor every day when its damp/wet out it is inside as well dont know why, Have same problem every year
andy Burgess Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Posted October 13, 2014 I get a wet floor every day when its damp/wet out it is inside as well dont know why, Have same problem every year well i have worried about moisture "un-seen" in my loft . i would be up-set if i could see dampness or wetness and didnt know why ?
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 i picked 1 up today , have "popped " it in the loft ? will see if it collects any moisture or not , then take it from there ? They are designed to draw moisture so you should definitely collect moisture. The important factor is the amount of moisture / humidity in your loft during racing at whenever is the sharp end for you.We live in Scotland so we suffer damp conditions. When the distance races are on we expect better weather and conditions and a slow build up to that period. If the sharp end is the earlier sprints you need to close the loft and control these factors with more heat / extraction, etc.
buster151 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Posted October 13, 2014 well i have worried about moisture "un-seen" in my loft . i would be up-set if i could see dampness or wetness and didnt know why ? I am but dont know what to do about it
andy Burgess Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Posted October 13, 2014 I am but dont know what to do about it can you tell us more and maybe a picture Buster ? a problem shared eh , maybe we can all help each other ?
clockman Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 I get a wet floor every day when its damp/wet out it is inside as well dont know why, Have same problem every yearIs the inside of your loft roof painted?
buster151 Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 Yes inside is painted with emulsion paint, some one said it was to do with air flow so I took a glass window out and put all bob wires and mesh in the space but made no difference at all, if anything its worse now, there is no leaks known have put hosepipe all over it and checked, really am at a loss, I put loft white down and blow torch it dry
Guest Cawdy Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 thought id stick this up shows quite well the difference temp makes to the amount moisture air can hold at different temperatures.....no really sure where would be the optimal for an in forum loft and just a thought to stir the pot a bit...... would there not be a risk in using dehumidifiers of creating to low a relative humidity which might effect the pigeons sinuses and/or mucus membranes
Kyleakin Lofts Posted October 14, 2014 Report Posted October 14, 2014 It would appear the colder the temperature, the less difference between 50% and 100%, so shouldn't make a lot of difference during the off season.
andy Burgess Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Posted November 12, 2014 well the £2 dehumidifier i put in that section a month ago hasnt collected 1 drop of moisture .so its safe to assume from all the replies ,,,,,, theres a percentage of moisture in the air at all times ,unless we put in a heating system there always will be. birds seem fine with it anyway ,, oh and try not to paint the inside of the loft
just ask me Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 With proper ventilation and insulation you can control most of what happens in a loft the temperature or humidity should not change that much in your loft unless you get extreme weather conditions
THE FIFER Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 fill bowls with salt, its the best moisture collector. I use them in the caravan, once wet just dry the salt in the oven
Guest chad3646 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 well the £2 dehumidifier i put in that section a month ago hasnt collected 1 drop of moisture .so its safe to assume from all the replies ,,,,,, theres a percentage of moisture in the air at all times ,unless we put in a heating system there always will be. birds seem fine with it anyway ,, oh and try not to paint the inside of the loft andy are you sure it is working, the reason i am asking that a friend of mine bought in some siberian bullfinches, and siberian gold finches they kept sitting puffed up, eventually dying he asked about to see if anything could be done about it someone told him to get a humidifier,he installed it in his hut, the amount moisture it picked up was unbelievable,hence the reason i am asking is it working ?
Novice Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 My loft will be completely closed in next season Be careful that you don't give yourself breathing problems.
Guest chad3646 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 andy are you sure it is working, the reason i am asking that a friend of mine bought in some siberian bullfinches, and siberian gold finches they kept sitting puffed up, eventually dying he asked about to see if anything could be done about it someone told him to get a humidifier,he installed it in his hut, the amount moisture it picked up was unbelievable,hence the reason i am asking is it working ?
just ask me Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 Lofts to close to the ground will have problems insulation within a loft will help a lot lofts shouldn't need mechanical help to function
andy Burgess Posted November 12, 2014 Author Report Posted November 12, 2014 andy are you sure it is working, the reason i am asking that a friend of mine bought in some siberian bullfinches, and siberian gold finches they kept sitting puffed up, eventually dying he asked about to see if anything could be done about it someone told him to get a humidifier,he installed it in his hut, the amount moisture it picked up was unbelievable,hence the reason i am asking is it working ? i can only assume its working Jimmy ? have used them before without issue ? ,,,, but not in a loft ?
R.A.M.C.63 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Posted November 12, 2014 i can only assume its working Jimmy ? have used them before without issue ? ,,,, but not in a loft ? Hi Andy, Jmo but i think you have TOO MUCH fresh air coming into your loft, now we,r into long cold damp nites, need to close down air flow, Reasons is without Sun/Heat to heat+dry Air coming in the damp air entering is just lingering floor level of loft which probaly accounts for Fanciers thinking that their floor droppings looks as if its taking longer to dry out, had to play about with mine for while before i got it right, Need the Air Thats Coming into Loft At right Flow so it drys up Raises up and Exits loft, I left Open Packet Stanly blades in loft not bit rust, When Ventilation Right every things Dry, Hope this helps Andy.
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