snfc/rpra

[Big Davie]

As far as im concerned it was the worst thing that ever happened to the fancy in Scotland when a second national flying club was formed, and thats not a critisism of the guys who formed it.When you look at the outside pressures that are killing the sport ( ie ) Avian Flu, birds of prey, rises in fuel and feeding costs, vaccination, aging membership, etc, etc, the last thing we needed was dispute that drove a wedge straight through the heart of the fancy up here.We are killing ourselves from the inside out,from national level through the Federations down to club level, and if it is not halted soon this great sport will be gone for good.I have now been racing pigeons for 40 years and have never been so disillusioned with the amount of crap that is flying about the doo game at present,most of it caused by petty jealousy,and by so called " Fanciers" who cannot or will not think outside their own backyard.I was present at the 2005 snfc agm and voted for the the status quo, given the the opportunity i will not do so again, for christs sake bury the hatchet, get the two committees round a table and get a way forward before it is too late.

Davie.

[stoolpigeon]

NO ONE  IN THERE RIGHT MIND SHOULD GO BACK THE WAY WHY DOES THE S.N.F.C MEMBERS NOT JOIN THE R.P.R.A ITS BETTER RUN

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

As far as im concerned it was the worst thing that ever happened to the fancy in Scotland when a second national flying club was formed, and thats not a critisism of the guys who formed it.When you look at the outside pressures that are killing the sport ( ie ) Avian Flu, birds of prey, rises in fuel and feeding costs, vaccination, aging membership, etc, etc, the last thing we needed was dispute that drove a wedge straight through the heart of the fancy up here.We are killing ourselves from the inside out,from national level through the Federations down to club level, and if it is not halted soon this great sport will be gone for good.I have now been racing pigeons for 40 years and have never been so disillusioned with the amount of crap that is flying about the doo game at present,most of it caused by petty jealousy,and by so called " Fanciers" who cannot or will not think outside their own backyard.I was present at the 2005 snfc agm and voted for the the status quo, given the the opportunity i will not do so again, for christs sake bury the hatchet, get the two committees round a table and get a way forward before it is too late.

Davie.

 

 

Well said Davie

 

[JADE]

NO ONE  IN THERE RIGHT MIND SHOULD GO BACK THE WAY WHY DOES THE S.N.F.C MEMBERS NOT JOIN THE R.P.R.A ITS BETTER RUN

 

rpra better run???? are you a comedian

[naedoos]

NO ONE  IN THERE RIGHT MIND SHOULD GO BACK THE WAY WHY DOES THE S.N.F.C MEMBERS NOT JOIN THE R.P.R.A ITS BETTER RUN

 

Yeah right, just check the other posts ;D

[ALF]

Now Now let's try and get it sorted out 8) 8)

[Guest Fuddly]

The fanciers who broke away and started another section of the RPRA here in Scotland had a dispute with the SHU regarding the ETS system they themselves are to blame for any quick demise of our sport in Scotland,no they were not to blame you may say,i think they were and good luck to them all appears well in the RPRA Scottish camp and they appear healthy and doing well,good.How the SHU and SNFC manage themselves i feel will work out for the best of the SCOTTISH flyers,so please lets not have another winter of discontent,both sides are happy just let it go and I wish all members of the RPRA AND SHU all the best.

[DOVEScot]

I voted to allow as I have no foot in any camp, me and Billy have decided we will be joining the SHU as this is the way that best suits us both :-/

[WELSH WIZARD]

i voted to keep them out

[Chris Little]

There is no 'Scottish' only region of the RPRA.

 

The Cumbrian region covers Cumbria, Isle of Man and Scotland, has done for years. We joined the RPRA long before the mud slinging started.

 

Being members of both SNFC & SNRPC I see strengths and weaknesses in both, time now to join as one and enjoy our doos.

[rembrant2coo]

The fanciers who broke away and started another section of the RPRA here in Scotland had a dispute with the SHU regarding the ETS system they themselves are to blame for any quick demise of our sport in Scotland,no they were not to blame you may say,i think they were and good luck to them all appears well in the RPRA Scottish camp and they appear healthy and doing well,good.How the SHU and SNFC manage themselves i feel will work out for the best of the SCOTTISH flyers,so please lets not have another winter of discontent,both sides are happy just let it go and I wish all members of the RPRA AND SHU all the best.

 

nothing to do with E.T.S.the real reason was already on here , and if it went through there would have been only one national , but we were out voted on the 2/3 majority

end of story , and the way you guys are all argueing on here, it seems we done the right thing we will continue to prosper and that is our greatest strengh ,  we at least are not argueing it also seems you are hell bent on putting us down long may you continue ,

[ChrisMaidment08]

never mind polertics get youer pension on sale cuz ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

don't see any union needs to change rules, you either come join  the one you left, or go join the  other, and fly by there rules,  if the snrpc  think they can hold most of there members fine,  like wise the snfc, but i think there have been more returned to the fold, than  leaving its a personal thing now,  all though rules are rules  and the snfc have had them the longest,

the snrp cant expect the snfc to change them either, the members have that choice, as they had the same choice,  allthought others  didn't see it that way and slid out,  talk the talk your in or your out simple and i don't from a neutral point of view, see the snfc  to  bothered about it now,  and have let  you get on with it

[frank-123]

don't see any union needs to change rules, you either come join  the one you left, or go join the  other, and fly by there rules,  if the snrpc  think they can hold most of there members fine,  like wise the snfc, but i think there have been more returned to the fold, than  leaving its a personal thing now,  all though rules are rules  and the snfc have had them the longest,

the snrp cant expect the snfc to change them either, the members have that choice, as they had the same choice,  allthought others  didn't see it that way and slid out,  talk the talk your in or your out simple and i don't from a neutral point of view, see the snfc  to  bothered about it now,  and have let  you get on with it

 

 

bigda       

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with five hundred odd members , can we  relay not be self sufficient instead of begging  transport from  other unions,  what part of the the fed is  not paying for its self, is it the  over 260 mile part as i  cant for the love of me think where the loses are coming from,  if its the  further distance  join the  national for that part alone, then maybe the lanarshire will  flourish  with having more races of our own at 80 and up 340  do we need falsie, when there are other more specialist  unions out there, the five hundred odd members are not all distance fliers, and  inland races  should be a lanarkshire only thing  if we cant  survey with 500 members  why are all the other clubs, they   never seem to be fazed by it , the lanarkshire distance men  have alternative options at the distance  if the want to  race,  but the lanarkshire  sprint men who i feel are in the majority,  are been  kept down  and the wealth of prize money is  not being divided  out equally  as against  sprint birds sent  whats wrong in  having £500 sprint races after all its where the  income comes from is it not.

 

 

thought you were just interested in sprints ;D

[Guest bigda]

 

thought you were just interested in sprints ;D

 

yep thats why  i don't think  the fed  should  go with the national sprints for the fed only,       distance for the national only  simple,  you  join  and support  your needs individually  and don't  try and  hoodwink  feds into things they should be supporting, we cut our  own cloth no one Else's we have 500 in lanarkshire  that say the want sprint racing, and the national has 1000 members   snfc  in the  whole of Scotland saying they want distance do both  but do it individually  i say

[Guest]

not saying any union rules should be changed bigda but if the snfc(club) dont change the rules in there rule book apertaining to the shu then it doesnt mater if they pass the commitee proposal we cant join so nothing will change but looking at most of the posts on here maybe nothing has changed in the 4 years and as some one has said we should just get on with it on our own as you said frank maybe to much to soon

[dkj]

i agree with bigda 1st post

[Guest bigda]

some one needs to lea :od ,the  flock will  follow on, but its no good  hearing people say to me  7th section and no pool moneys left, if they dont like that why are they still there  be your own man  not somebodys puppet  :-/

[Guest]

bigda money is not every thing and  money has in the past been blamed for encouraging some to be less honest than they might be (dont want to bring that up again it has its own thread) but yes it is nice to get a bonus it seems to be all end all to you give me  a 1st open any time dont give a sh-- about what money comes or doesnt come with it

[Guest bigda]

bigda money is not every thing and  money has in the past been blamed for encouraging some to be less honest than they might be (dont want to bring that up again it has its own thread) but yes it is nice to get a bonus it seems to be all end all to you give me  a 1st open any time dont give a sh-- about what money comes or doesnt come with it

 

would you give your young birds  away free from your winner frank ill keep you in mind   ;D ;D

[Guest]

yes have done many times

[frank-123]

i agree inland races should be for feds over the water for the snfc

but why send an empty transporter on a 700 mile round trip with hardly any pigeons on it

a total waste of money

now maybe if all the fed's in the west had got together maybe we could have all went as one but i think they missed the boat and the snfc stepped in to do the job

[eastcoaster]

I Watched the darts on ITV4 last week and as a past decent player a few years ago it was the best i have seen in a long long time Why and what has darts got to do with pigeons? Well any darts player will tell you they went down the same road as our two nat clubs   one lot fell out with the other and split !! it douse`nt matter which one came out on top over the next few years  but they are back playing against each other making for great viewing, The SNFC and SNRPC are in the same boat now, they both cannot and willnot survive as a profitable concern until we get it sorted a little at a time, We want to win a nat with all of you top men in the same race because Scotland used to be the best distance racing in GB

[Guest bigda]

i agree inland races should be for feds over the water for the snfc

but why send an empty transporter on a 700 mile round trip with hardly any pigeons on it

a total waste of money

now maybe if all the fed's in the west had got together maybe we could have all went as one but i think they missed the boat and the snfc stepped in to do the job

 

thats whats pulling the both of them down keep them separate and  let the whole, of Scotland fly distance together 1-9 sections if thats whats needed  cut the strings and  it will sort it self out  if  it has a ring on its leg it qualifies  and a measure maybe it could be done and each club sectary and committee responsible for own  race as  how to get there birds picked up :-/

[Guest]

look at the voting now bart thats no where near two thirds doesnt look good does it