ally mac Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 the winds we got last season were mostly east or south east so if the birds are racing with a tail wind they will go high and over most of the hills thats where we get most of our loses as far as iam concerned no ceiling birds doing over 1700 y/p/m over the loft before they know, and if there is any norh in the wind they will be low and that brings its own difficulties wires go round hills etc but dont discount our birds intelengance the good ones will fight against winds and try as much as it can to keep its line of flight but the wind and drag will push them to where they come up the country doesnt matter which way you train yes land marks can help i think but thats never been proved we all have our likes and dislikes but i think i would go with fanciers who are bieng succsfull over the last couple of years they have obvisualy got all the management correct no one can say they have not ally you have to remember your birds have to do the last 40/50 mls on there own you have to try and find an edge on your club members and whats best for your loft loc you chose who to follow i know what i would do!!!!!!!!! I have found this thread really interesting, you, and others, know I have had training directions on my mind for a while Frank. Certainly food for thought. Keep it coming lads!
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Have a look at the SNFC yb national.. nobody from F made the Open result.. What are peoples opinion on this..?? Why are Region F fanciers not further up the result..??
ALF Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Have a look at the SNFC yb national.. nobody from F made the Open result.. What are peoples opinion on this..?? Why are Region F fanciers not further up the result..?? Maybe it had a lot to do with the wind and the weather on the day as no pigeons from the West made the open result in the y/b national this year!!!
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 take a look at the west results in the snrpc the last 3/4 years have been unbelievable some of which are racing to exactly the same loc as alexandra club and even worse 1st open 16th open and many more, good fit and trouble free as johno said 1st thing to get right is healthy birds if you dont start with them then it doesnt matter how good /fit or where you train from your kidding your self on and in this day and age thats very hard to do
frank-123 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Have a look at the SNFC yb national.. nobody from F made the Open result.. What are peoples opinion on this..?? Why are Region F fanciers not further up the result..?? because you fly into the toughest area in the country and have a very small amount of birds sent to these races look at region e and the boys in the gretna area in the young bird national the birds raced up the east coast and never broke the young bird national is suicide in the west unless the wind is on the nose or east
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Maybe it had a lot to do with the wind and the weather on the day as no pigeons from the West made the open result in the y/b national this year!!! correct aly proves my point wind will sort out the winners doest mean the birds that get through against the wind arent good far from it some of they could well be the best birds on the day but conditions didnt suit thats pigeon racing for you
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 because you fly into the toughest area in the country and have a very small amount of birds sent to these races look at region e and the boys in the gretna area in the young bird national the birds raced up the east coast and never broke the young bird national is suicide in the west unless the wind is on the nose or east So why did they not break.. is this because we're teaching them from an early age to come from the East..??
Guest stb- Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 So why did they not break.. is this because we're teaching them from an early age to come from the East..?? the weathr was a tottal shut out on this side of the country that day.
ally mac Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 It would be interesting to see what birdage what clubs are sending, is that info readily available? Just thinking about the main drag etc.
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 the weathr was a tottal shut out on this side of the country that day. but that doesnt count it was the training as y/b that caused it, lets go back to looking what tesco elvis is working in any one seen him lately :P
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 It would be interesting to see what birdage what clubs are sending, is that info readily available? Just thinking about the main drag etc. To which races mate..?? Club, Fed, National..??
fastblack Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 the weathr was a tottal shut out on this side of the country that day. so why lib then every 1 in the west knew there were on a hiding weather was mankie all day
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 now your thinking ally can see a few red faces next year ;)
ally mac Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 To which races mate..?? Club, Fed, National..?? Was thinking about the Glasgow Fed and the early races being discussed.
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Im pretty sure the Fed sec would have that info mate..
fastblack Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 but that doesnt count it was the training as y/b that caused it, lets go back to looking what tesco elvis is working in any one seen him lately :P lmao dont start frankie bhoy singing in the rain fast 8)
hotrod Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 Was thinking about the Glasgow Fed and the early races being discussed. aly in clydebank club the first few y/b races we had close on 500 birds i think alexandria would be lucky to have 200 ,up the east end of the fed im not sure
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 lmao dont start frankie bhoy singing in the rain fast 8) SORY I DO APOLIGISE ;)
Guest stb- Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 so why lib then every 1 in the west knew there were on a hiding weather was mankie all daygot 2 ask the convoyer and race controler that one. I suppose if its clear at the race point and good most of the way home they wont hold because its raining in one area. you could hold and it would be raining everywhere the next week
Guest JonesyBhoy Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 aly in clydebank club the first few y/b races we had close on 500 birds i think alexandria would be lucky to have 200 ,up the east end of the fed im not sure And what were the birdages for Otterburn 2 until the end of the season..??
hotrod Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 all you guys ion here hiding behind your avatars who are you and what makes you all experts ,or are youse just somebodys puppets?
Guest frank dooman Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 got 2 ask the convoyer and race controler that one. I suppose if its clear at the race point and good most of the way home they wont hold because its raining in one area. you could hold and it would be raining everywhere the next week good ques but a very hard one to call i think we all knew that was likely to hapen thats why the birdage was down on that weekend it was a very bad forecast
Guest stb- Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 all you guys ion here hiding behind your avatars who are you and what makes you all experts ,or are youse just somebodys puppets? Im me ;D ;D
ally mac Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 aly in clydebank club the first few y/b races we had close on 500 birds i think alexandria would be lucky to have 200 ,up the east end of the fed im not sure Thanks Stu. Not sure what Alexandria was sending as I dint race the ybs, there a few more members for next year so hopefuly there will be more.
hotrod Posted December 1, 2009 Report Posted December 1, 2009 And what were the birdages for Otterburn 2 until the end of the season..?? couldnt tell you as i only race one or two races and put them by for next year ,and was not at the club marking .ps i raced st boswells young birds and sent 21 and had 19 home so not too bad a race
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