BIGPETE Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Hi Guys, New member here so excuse the basic question and hoping this is in the right section of the forum.. I am in the process of converting a shed into a small pigeon loft. The exterior of the shed has been painted in Creoseal (a Creosote alternative). But the inside walls and floor need coating with something. Would it be advisable to coat it with Creoseal (I have a lot left over). I know this stuff takes ages to dry and stinks for a while but this is no issue as the shed is currently empty and I have no birds so in no massive hurry to stock it just yet as still got to build some nest boxes etc etc. The only thing with this stuff is it is very dark, so the loft might look a little gloomy? Alternative would be to paint it with regular paint. But what sort of paint is ok to use? Matt? Emulsion? Anything to avoid? A wise old man many years ago told me to add a product called, "duramitex" to the paint and stir it in pre painting to kill any bugs and keep them gone. Is this something that would work or a bit of a wifes tale? Any info much appreciated. Cheers, Pete
buster151 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 I'm no expert but others have said to leave inside plain wood to allow it to breath, but if you do paint it I understand matt emulsion is best and no its not an old wives tale
harry h Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Buy some loft floor white and mix it with water into a pasteand just paint it on your walls floor and ceiling 2 coats, job done.
THE FIFER Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 masonry paint is good m8, dries quick and no smell, also fills in cracks etc, you get it in most colours
dal2 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 Hi Guys, New member here so excuse the basic question and hoping this is in the right section of the forum.. I am in the process of converting a shed into a small pigeon loft. The exterior of the shed has been painted in Creoseal (a Creosote alternative). But the inside walls and floor need coating with something. Would it be advisable to coat it with Creoseal (I have a lot left over). I know this stuff takes ages to dry and stinks for a while but this is no issue as the shed is currently empty and I have no birds so in no massive hurry to stock it just yet as still got to build some nest boxes etc etc. The only thing with this stuff is it is very dark, so the loft might look a little gloomy? Alternative would be to paint it with regular paint. But what sort of paint is ok to use? Matt? Emulsion? Anything to avoid? A wise old man many years ago told me to add a product called, "duramitex" to the paint and stir it in pre painting to kill any bugs and keep them gone. Is this something that would work or a bit of a wifes tale? Any info much appreciated. Cheers, PeteI soak cardboard in creosote and sit under the nest bowls during breeding. Stinks a bit tho
BIGPETE Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Posted February 24, 2014 Thanks for the replies lads. Masonary paint I actually have half a tub knocking about from last year so will use that. Soaking cardboad in creosote sounds like a good idea too, makes a lot of sense and inexpensive/disposable too. How often would you change that? After each round of YB's has been reared?
greenlands Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 "A wise old man many years ago told me to add a product called, "duramitex" to the paint and stir it in pre painting to kill any bugs and keep them gone. Is this something that would work or a bit of a wifes tale?" You can't get the original Duramitex,so that's solved that problem mate. :emoticon-0138-thinking:
Tony C Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 John Tranter who I regard as one of the best loft builders in the UK told me never paint the inside of a loft, let the wood breath.
William Reid Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 John Tranter who I regard as one of the best loft builders in the UK told me never paint the inside of a loft, let the wood breath.Totally agree .
Guest chad3646 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Posted February 24, 2014 the old timers used to white wash there lofts with lime they got out the steelworks done the job at that time killed everything. any of use lads heard of keatons powder used for killing the lice i remember i used to go out with my faither at night he opened the wings and i spread the powder on them there was more powder on faither than on the pigeons happy days
walterboswell59 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 the old timers used to white wash there lofts with lime they got out the steelworks done the job at that time killed everything. any of use lads heard of keatons powder used for killing the lice i remember i used to go out with my faither at night he opened the wings and i spread the powder on them there was more powder on faither than on the pigeons happy daysyip choking and coverd in powder lol but it done the job
greenlands Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 I have three lofts,none are painted inside.
walterboswell59 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 "A wise old man many years ago told me to add a product called, "duramitex" to the paint and stir it in pre painting to kill any bugs and keep them gone. Is this something that would work or a bit of a wifes tale?" You can't get the original Duramitex,so that's solved that problem mate. :emoticon-0138-thinking:same with cresote is not the same product i liked the old stuff best
walterboswell59 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks for the replies lads. Masonary paint I actually have half a tub knocking about from last year so will use that. Soaking cardboad in creosote sounds like a good idea too, makes a lot of sense and inexpensive/disposable too. How often would you change that? After each round of YB's has been reared?i would never use paint pete as it flakes and the birds may peck at it also has lots of chemicals in it better with emulsion m8
THE FIFER Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks for the replies lads. Masonary paint I actually have half a tub knocking about from last year so will use that. Soaking cardboad in creosote sounds like a good idea too, makes a lot of sense and inexpensive/disposable too. How often would you change that? After each round of YB's has been reared? the masonry paint is good m8, use it all the time,
tiger Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 don't paint inside lofts its a waste of time , jmo
lanarkshire lad Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 I am a painter to trade and the fifer is right masonary water based paint is as good as it gets for inside your loft IMO.
paddymac Posted February 25, 2014 Report Posted February 25, 2014 masonry paint is good m8, dries quick and no smell, also fills in cracks etc, you get it in most coloursBeen using it now a few times both inside and outside of the lofts and have to say it does a cracking job and drys in no time which is another benefit
Michael J Burden Posted February 26, 2014 Report Posted February 26, 2014 My lofts are in painted inside. However the old one had white emulsion on walls many years ago. The masonry paint looks appealing for outside.
BIGPETE Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Posted February 26, 2014 Hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies. Really good to have so many people chime in and offer their thoughts and experience. The idea of natural wood does sound good and I think if it were new timber that looked fresh I would go down this route. But being an old shed which has been used for other things previously I like the idea of painting the interior. Going to go for masonry white, purely because I have a big old tub sitting doing nothing and being on a shoe string budget I would like to use what I have available without spending more then required. Will post a pic up once the shed has been painted. Cheers Lads, Pete
Guest nephilim Posted February 26, 2014 Report Posted February 26, 2014 I've seen many and good loft ruined by being painted inside. I looks nice to start with, and certainly brightens the inside. But once breeding is over, it'll want redoing and yearly after that. The wood needs to breath or it''ll shorten the lifespan. My dad did the beermats in creasote trick, back in the 1950's, and I do it today. Leave it bare and use jeyes fluid and weed killer blowtorch, when cleaning the loft.
Guest Owen Posted February 26, 2014 Report Posted February 26, 2014 Pigeons like all birds have a very sensitive respiratory system and fumes will cause them to have an adverse reaction to things that we humans would have no problem with. So to play safe it is better not to have anything in the loft that could cause them a problem. Even the ammonia fumes from their dung will have a detrimental effect on them which is an important reason why they need very good ventilation.It is safer not to paint the inside of the loft but make sure that it is bone dry which is much more important.
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