coey18 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 last time i had a loft, in 2008, i always scraped the floor daily. i have now been reading about some sort of bedding being placed on the floor. is this cleaner, than scrapping? how often does it need changing and whats the best type to use? any help on these questions, would be appreciate. thank you,Anthony.
Guest bigda Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) only any good it your loft is dry as it would stink the place out if it got wet easy bed is used and some like deep bed of beech Chips or both mixed you would use this for 1 year but every now and then you would thin it out with a rake it then tends to sterilise the loft once it has been in for a few months again it has to be dry at all timesspilling a drinker on it can upset it very quick if you leave it Edited November 14, 2013 by bigda
mazzie Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 Old method is the best rough building sand and and a good garden lime that do the trick
walterboswell59 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 i use easy bed on my loft floor but was in an old fanciers loft 40 years ago and he had peat mixed with garden lime on the floor it looked great about 5 inch deep he swore by it and no problem getting rid of it when cleaning out just put it straight on the garden and his veg was 1st class always forget to give it ago
ForestForever74 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 The loft is scrapped everyday with the birds still in the loft. Its all about routine and the birds enjoy the interaction well all bar one who looks at me as if id invaded his home. This is followed by some handling and playing with the birds then its dinner time. Got a great wee routine this winter :-)
Guest IB Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 Never really stop using the scraper because you have perches and nest boxes to clean out; a floor dressing is probably more hygienic than just scraping it, and can be left for a week or more at a time, lots of different things to choose from lets you experiment till you find the one that suits you best. One extra thing you will find handy is a pair of shoes worn only inside the loft - leave your walking shoes at the door and you'll carry nothing in or out on the soles.
coey18 Posted November 15, 2013 Author Report Posted November 15, 2013 i have 2 sections so, maybe try something different in each 1. scraping doesn't bother me, quite enjoy it to be honest, was thinking if the birds will have bedding on the bottom of the baskets, would it not be a good idea to have the same on the loft floor? i actually have to have two pairs of shoes, a pair i leave in the house and change into my garden pair, walk to the loft and change to my loft pair, not allowed dirty shoes on kitchen floor,strict orders haha
geordie1234 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 I have grills at the moment down on the compound but my loft at the house will be scraped. I might use beach chips in the youngbird section
jakie Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 is it true deep litter keeps the humidity down ? so keeps the section drier?
PIGEONPACKMAN Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 don't like deep litter gives rats and mice somewhere warm and corn gets mixed in to
seabreeze Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 don't like deep litter gives rats and mice somewhere warm and corn gets mixed in to if you want your loft invaded by moths use deep litter,they love it.
blue lad Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 Sharp sand used it for two years now .droppings dry in now time once every few weeks sweep and sive We drop clean sand on top .
peter pandy Posted November 15, 2013 Report Posted November 15, 2013 Fit plastic V perches with a channel made from decking underneath half filled with easy bed to catch the droppings and break up weekly, same with the nest boxes. The floor can be whatever your preference as long as rain does not penetrate especially if straw is used although it was my preference and you will find that it absorbs the humidity on damp days.
Guest langley lad Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Sharp sand used it for two years now .droppings dry in now time once every few weeks sweep and sive We drop clean sand on top .do you dry the sand as it;s wet wen you get it from builders yard
Bryngwynt Lofts Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 For me the trusty scrapper,twice a day in season.This time of the year just the once.
R.A.M.C.63 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Everything scraped on to floor weekly and left till deep, no sand,straw,lime, added. thinking this year of feeding them on floor too, no feeders,
MIK Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Everything scraped on to floor weekly and left till deep, no sand,straw,lime, added. thinking this year of feeding them on floor too, no feeders, Ronnie i like your thinking
R.A.M.C.63 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Ronnie i like your thinking Cheers Mik can but try used deep litter system for about 15years now and never problem we health of birds, with tin loft no damp patches, so dont problem with cocci that, have to take odd bag litter out few times, and the birds are aways moving it about, so am not bothered about birds eating amongest it, all about finding a balance with hygine in loft, how you Mik
andy Burgess Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Everything scraped on to floor weekly and left till deep, no sand,straw,lime, added. thinking this year of feeding them on floor too, no feeders,was replying to this Ronnie before a PM came through . as a boy I was gifted youngsters "un-rung" from a guy who won just about everything (especially at the distance) I relayed the story last night at "our doo" he would dip his head as he went through the door because there was so much muck on the floor , scraped his heel into the covering to pour in the feed from a sack . many roads lead to Rome they say
MIK Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Cheers Mik can but try used deep litter system for about 15years now and never problem we health of birds, with tin loft no damp patches, so dont problem with cocci that, have to take odd bag litter out few times, and the birds are aways moving it about, so am not bothered about birds eating amongest it, all about finding a balance with hygine in loft, how you Mik all is good here Ronnie, hope urself and urs are well ....i do the same but i have a layer of "natural" loft granules down first, helps dry the droppins and form a good base for the deep litter. Like urself i dont mind throwing chixt from boxes/perches on floor, but i do lift the heavy chixt below perches once a week.i also sometimes but not all throw the feed on the floor instead of tray. healthy as *expletive removed* they are and i wouldnt change for no man nor beast
MIK Posted November 18, 2013 Report Posted November 18, 2013 all is good here Ronnie, hope urself and urs are well ....i do the same but i have a layer of "natural" loft granules down first, helps dry the droppins and form a good base for the deep litter. Like urself i dont mind throwing chixt from boxes/perches on floor, but i do lift the heavy chixt below perches once a week.i also sometimes but not all throw the feed on the floor instead of tray. healthy as *expletive removed* they are and i wouldnt change for no man nor beast ps ...forgot to say if pigeons cant handle the bugs in my loft i dont need them...constitution means everthing and i can build on that Mick
R.A.M.C.63 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Posted November 18, 2013 was replying to this Ronnie before a PM came through . as a boy I was gifted youngsters "un-rung" from a guy who won just about everything (especially at the distance) I relayed the story last night at "our doo" he would dip his head as he went through the door because there was so much muck on the floor , scraped his heel into the covering to pour in the feed from a sack . many roads lead to Rome they say Hi Andy i even put it in my trainning boxes, that why i built them that way so it didn,t fill car sh**, baskets always leave mess, sterile in loft sterile in boxes ;)
R.A.M.C.63 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Posted November 18, 2013 ps ...forgot to say if pigeons cant handle the bugs in my loft i dont need them...constitution means everthing and i can build on that Mick Here Here Mik :) no point wrapping them in Cottenwool, lov that word CONSTITUTION !!!!! only the Heathly est required, all fine here to Mik cheers
walterboswell59 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Posted November 18, 2013 bang on guys healthy birds with strong imune system on litter dry is the key word
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