Pigeon Health Questions For Walter

[walterboswell59]

would be good for another topic Hughie

 

 

 

i think you missed it Wattie , almost found your answer in your own words there

 

been there , read the book , and found the answers to fight the authorities for my Son Alfie , wasnt easy , and still had some foolls decrying what i found

well done m8 i would fight them to the death if the child was mine ps sorry shug lost the place a bit m8

[Delboy]

your right derek a scandal and a heartbreaker the wee lad next door to me has it he follows me about like a wee dog till i take him to see the birds i could cry every time i look in the wee boys eyes the lights on but nobodys in still his mum and dad love the fact i take an interess in the kid he seems to have taken to me comes in to see the birds having a bath him and i sit on my garden seat his wee legs swinging and the wee face all lit up as he watches them a bit like another wee lad i knew lol

 

Soul destroying Wattie,we have had a complete nightmare and there is no end to it.I once spoke to a lady that specialised in alternative medicines and she told me that she was totally convinced that the MMR was caused solely by the Governments money saving 3 in 1 vaccinations.

[walterboswell59]

Soul destroying Wattie,we have had a complete nightmare and there is no end to it.I once spoke to a lady that specialised in alternative medicines and she told me that she was totally convinced that the MMR was caused solely by the Governments money saving 3 in 1 vaccinations.

yes justlike the so called expert that said we cant get mad cow they should have hung that bassa along with the goverment minester who got him to say it and they poor kids with autism to save money its criminal my heart goes out to them and there parents

[Rooster J. Cogburn]

your right derek a scandal and a heartbreaker the wee lad next door to me has it he follows me about like a wee dog till i take him to see the birds i could cry every time i look in the wee boys eyes the lights on but nobodys in still his mum and dad love the fact i take an interess in the kid he seems to have taken to me comes in to see the birds having a bath him and i sit on my garden seat his wee legs swinging and the wee face all lit up as he watches them a bit like another wee lad i knew lol

 

A bit of a different case Walter, but my dad and I heard news last week that knocked us a bit.

 

The wee boy next door to the pigeon loft used to come over all the time, his mum kept worrying he was bothering us but she was told not to. He's a smashing young lad, very bright for his age and he picked out a pigeon he liked that we called "Robin" after him. Every time he's round he can pick it out the bunch no problem.

 

He used to climb the fence and shout to see if we were about and if he could come over to see the pigeons, he'd sit in our feeding shed and draw pictures of 'pigeons'. Well we hadn't seen or heard from him recently and it was just last week we found out from a neighbour that he has been confined to a wheelchair. He has a problem with his hips,his parents are hopeful it's not going to be for life but it will be for the next few years.

 

Put thing's into perspective a bit, when I see myself getting worked up over the doo's, a transporter or a race programme.

[Delboy]

yes justlike the so called expert that said we cant get mad cow they should have hung that bassa along with the goverment minester who got him to say it and they poor kids with autism to save money its criminal my heart goes out to them and there parents

 

 

WELL SAID M8

[walterboswell59]

A bit of a different case Walter, but my dad and I heard news last week that knocked us a bit.

 

The wee boy next door to the pigeon loft used to come over all the time, his mum kept worrying he was bothering us but she was told not to. He's a smashing young lad, very bright for his age and he picked out a pigeon he liked that we called "Robin" after him. Every time he's round he can pick it out the bunch no problem.

 

He used to climb the fence and shout to see if we were about and if he could come over to see the pigeons, he'd sit in our feeding shed and draw pictures of 'pigeons'. Well we hadn't seen or heard from him recently and it was just last week we found out from a neighbour that he has been confined to a wheelchair. He has a problem with his hips,his parents are hopeful it's not going to be for life but it will be for the next few years.

 

Put thing's into perspective a bit, when I see myself getting worked up over the doo's, a transporter or a race programme.

shame m8 hope the wee lads ok with me pigeons are my love and passion but my kids and grandchildren are my life and soul

[peter pandy]

They say their is a long tunnel in life with a shining beacon at the end of it ! Some of us are at the start of it, some at the middle and some nearing the end. Life and knowledge to me is like that.

Returning to walter's theory, he has managed to bring that piece of knowledge closer to the end of my tunnel as he really has hit the nail on the head. I have studied my diaries for the last couple of years and conclude my o/b losses and loss of form have coincided with transferring weaned vaccinated y/b from the stock loft to the main racing loft. This will be rectified so thank-you Walter.

[Guest chad3646]

They say their is a long tunnel in life with a shining beacon at the end of it ! Some of us are at the start of it, some at the middle and some nearing the end. Life and knowledge to me is like that.

Returning to walter's theory, he has managed to bring that piece of knowledge closer to the end of my tunnel as he really has hit the nail on the head. I have studied my diaries for the last couple of years and conclude my o/b losses and loss of form have coincided with transferring weaned vaccinated y/b from the stock loft to the main racing loft. This will be rectified so thank-you Walter.

 

 

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[ALF]

Am goonae try something different this year and i'll be the 1st to let yeez know how i get on???

[peter pandy]

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Read it again ! So what ?.

[Guest chad3646]

Read it again ! So what ?.

 

 

you are making a liar out of your self

 

enough said i,m of for a drink

[peter pandy]

you are making a liar out of your self

 

enough said i,m of for a drink

chad 3646 are you incapable of understanding plain English ? as my remarks were quite clearly spelt out to one and all who understood what was written in plain English and you have tenermity to call me a liar. Please be so good as to explain where you are coming from so I can make it simpler for you.

[peter pandy]

you

you say your own experience your flock has went through life without contracting ybs

 

 

then you sayexcept on a couple of occasions make your mind up

 

 

you then sayyou probably do what walters doing except you dont through out the vaccine walter recommends that you through out the bottle not put it back in the fridge

 

So I am a liar for posting the fact I have never had YBS but have had other diseases and this remark makes me a liar so I will clarify.

I purchased years ago all the principal pigeons belonging to the late A.P. Taylor Falkirk apart from his SCC winner and put them in my race loft along with the rest of my team as it was my intention to break and race them. Within 6 weeks all had contracted some disease or another and died, Enquiries were made and I found Mr Tayler had been feeding his birds Aureomycin for years and his birds had no immune system. A couple of years later I went to a clearance sale for a Mr & Mrs Donaldson down Lockerbie-Gretna way Purchasing a Grizzle hen named "Titch" which had a couple of national diplomas from Nantes and 5 others, All were dead within a month with what my vet diagnosed as Dyptheria coupled with no immune system none of my own birds were affected.

I sincerely hope this answers your opinion of me being a liar.

[walterboswell59]

They say their is a long tunnel in life with a shining beacon at the end of it ! Some of us are at the start of it, some at the middle and some nearing the end. Life and knowledge to me is like that.

Returning to walter's theory, he has managed to bring that piece of knowledge closer to the end of my tunnel as he really has hit the nail on the head. I have studied my diaries for the last couple of years and conclude my o/b losses and loss of form have coincided with transferring weaned vaccinated y/b from the stock loft to the main racing loft. This will be rectified so thank-you Walter.

and thankyou peter for being good enough to let me know maybe you to can help to convince the rest im on to something that can help us all one at a time is hard work m8 i am trying my best to anser each question as it is asked in the hope more people see it is a big problem but so easy to fix

[peter pandy]

Walter,

Their is an old saying ; "YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK" ; chad3646 is the perfect example..

[William Reid]

Walter,

Their is an old saying ; "YOU CAN LEAD A HORSE TO WATER BUT YOU CANNOT MAKE IT DRINK" ; chad3646 is the perfect example..

:emoticon-0137-clapping:

[peter pandy]

Walter,

Here is more food for thought !.

I and friends went to the Bonnybridge prize presentation followed by discussion with a panel consisting John Harwood and John Bosworth last year. One of the questions asked and answered by the panel was vaccination. John Bosworth gave his reply that set tongues wagging.

I Vaccinate twice yearly.. Once in January before pairing and ONCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THE FIRST NATIONAL TO ENSURE MY CANDIDATES DO NOT CONTRACT ANYTHING IN THE BASKET..

As any National man will tell you all the prepatory work has been done a couple of weeks prior to the event where upon vaccination can be carried out with 2 weeks isolation not being a problem. I know rest and contemplation works wonders. DONT YOU !!.

[walterboswell59]

Walter,

Here is more food for thought !.

I and friends went to the Bonnybridge prize presentation followed by discussion with a panel consisting John Harwood and John Bosworth last year. One of the questions asked and answered by the panel was vaccination. John Bosworth gave his reply that set tongues wagging.

I Vaccinate twice yearly.. Once in January before pairing and ONCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEFORE THE FIRST NATIONAL TO ENSURE MY CANDIDATES DO NOT CONTRACT ANYTHING IN THE BASKET..

As any National man will tell you all the prepatory work has been done a couple of weeks prior to the event where upon vaccination can be carried out with 2 weeks isolation not being a problem. I know rest and contemplation works wonders. DONT YOU !!.

agree peter but john its deff taking a big risk jagging them during racing season the mans a fantastic flyer but this could explain why his results are not what they use to be and i dont mean that in a bad way i mean maybe he would be even better if they were jagged off season m8

[walterboswell59]

you go by what the vaccination people say but you wont listen to the vets they will never tell you to treat blind only if they have the illness

 

I don't take paracetamol just incase im going to get a headache

i know what you mean m8 but vets dont test vaccines

[walterboswell59]

thanks fid i was just lucky getting mine replaced and have to admit at the end of the day it was not studs fault i was not jagged and at that time no one knew vaccinated birds gave unvaccinated birds a problem m8

for all the guys now having problems bump

[JOHNSEE]

I have spent the last couple of hours reading the most interesting comments on reasons and possible ways to avoid sickness and indeed death to ones birds,I am only returning to the sport after some 17 years,It is my intention never to race young birds,am I right in believing that I would be safer wainting untill breeding from the stock birds I have brought is complete then vacinate both o/birds and young birds together........thanks for some wonderful reading....JBC/..

[andy Burgess]

I have spent the last couple of hours reading the most interesting comments on reasons and possible ways to avoid sickness and indeed death to ones birds,I am only returning to the sport after some 17 years,It is my intention never to race young birds,am I right in believing that I would be safer wainting untill breeding from the stock birds I have brought is complete then vacinate both o/birds and young birds together........thanks for some wonderful reading....JBC/..

the answers are there John , i wont piont them out .its always better to read and understand it in your own way .then you have truly learned the lesson , good luck.

[andy Burgess]

bumped up , may help some . I know many are looking to buy vaccine in soon , read through it again

[blaz]

top class read walter . i have learned a good bit reading the posts. thanks for taking the time to post it.will be making all members of my club aware of this. will also be putting forward a few ideas for jagging club birds next year thanks again.

[walterboswell59]

top class read walter . i have learned a good bit reading the posts. thanks for taking the time to post it.will be making all members of my club aware of this. will also be putting forward a few ideas for jagging club birds next year thanks again.

your wellcome blas hope it helps you any stray that gets in your loft can be a danger to your whole flock so try to keep them out if pos or remove them soon as they enter no matter how good they look m8