thepigeonman Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hi my hens haven't laid and a fancier said could be there to fat how do I get weight down ie feeding or that thanks if you could help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 split them , 1/2 rations of barley for a week ,or more if you can . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulrstokes Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 1oz barley per bird per day put in front of them for 5 minutes then remove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulkie Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Also if u can get them out for exercise mainly hens the cocks will lose fat When driving . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 There stock hens had them for a month n guy lives in next town n he said don't let them out a can get barley as I help on farm thanks for help just none off hens have laid n first time pairing up n not got any young birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyesign123 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Feed them a oz of normal corn and miss one day. It will cut the weight of them and will do them more good than harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 if you have only had them for a month thay will be still settleing in to your loft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 soup diet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 i agree with Kirky but if the hens are too fat split them fae the cocks and gie them nothing but water with multivits in it and defo no grub for 5 days then handle them again and you will see different pigeons that certainly wont be too fat to lay Done it myself a few times with stock hens and it never fails and does them no harm either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHigg Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 see you looking more like your old self again allan AVATAR nice to see you back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 see you looking more like your old self again allan AVATAR nice to see you back That's ma twin :lol: ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Thanks for help how long does it take to brake a local pigeon to your loft or does it just depands that some are different to others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 let the cocks out when they are driving when they come in let the hens out with them the next day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Reid Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 i agree with Kirky but if the hens are too fat split them fae the cocks and gie them nothing but water with multivits in it and defo no grub for 5 days then handle them again and you will see different pigeons that certainly wont be too fat to lay Done it myself a few times with stock hens and it never fails and does them no harm either....No food for five days f--- off .every thing way doos is only 24 hrs ya big nutter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Starving a pigeon damages the gut wall. The wall isn't smooth and has gazillions of little finger-like projections sticking outwards toward the gut contents. If you look at your own hand palm down and fingers splayed, thats what it looks like. Now make the same hand into a fist. Thats what happens after starvation - remember thats also a big part of the immune system you've killed - you'll find more about it on the web, search for 'villi'. I'd a really heavy stock pigeon and I fed him one teaspoonful (5 grams) of barley a day for something like a week and the excess weight fair dropped off him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirky Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Thanks for help how long does it take to brake a local pigeon to your loft or does it just depands that some are different to otherscheck with the guy you got them off as you said he told you not to let them out,cocks returning to old lofts can do a lot of damage ie broken eggs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterboswell59 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 check with the guy you got them off as you said he told you not to let them out,cocks returning to old lofts can do a lot of damage ie broken eggs,asumed he would know to let the guy know when he was trying them kirky your right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumyat Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 check with the guy you got them off as you said he told you not to let them out,cocks returning to old lofts can do a lot of damage ie broken eggs, I gave the bloke the birds to get him started and it was for the very reason above that he was told to breed off them and not let them out.The hens i gave him were not fat and indeed he had one hen of his own,so why hasnt it laid.I think the problem is more likely to lie with the location where the birds are being kept and the possibility that they are not getting any peace because of vermin ect. added to the fact that the bloke has no knowledge of pigeon husbandry.I thought i was doing the bloke a favour,but i should have given more thought about"was i doing the birds a favour"The answer was clearly no and he won't be getting any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 if you have only had them for a month thay will be still settleing in to your loft.spot on kirky totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I didn't say I git them fat I could have gave them too much and not lied my location Yes it is my first year and I want to learn tht why I asked quest didn't say they were fat wn I got them n there no vermin i have a guy who keep vermin down in houses i Am fankfull for birds I didnt not say they were fat when I got them they are great birds the location has no vermin and I Am in sport learn dieing sport you want young folk to come into sport and I ask for help n I get tht why ask folk to join sport if you make tht out and some off my hens have laid eggs today why ask young folk to join when they ask for help and get could tht the birds are great as i said I asked could I have feed them more and put weight on cause off me feeding to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ment guy tht stays in houses at the land shots the rats and keeps them away I want to learn I asked if could have fed them to much to make them fat I didn't say they was fat when i got them so I havent lied they are great birds I Am greatfull for them and ask for help why ask folk to join if they ask questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 good luck with the youngsters ,maybe keep the older birds in as requested .keep asking questions , we can all learn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Not happy could liar I asked quest cause guy said could be tht av not liad a have no vermin I asked incase I fed them to much and incase a ever do i rite down al info I get so I learn I admit I Am new I didn't say his hens were fat when got them the birds are cracking pigeons I am hurt by that I ask question if I have over fed and if I ever do in future so I know how get weight sort its hurt me getting called liar and I want to learn so I ask questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Not happy could liar I asked quest cause guy said could be tht av not liad a have no vermin I asked incase I fed them to much and incase a ever do i rite down al info I get so I learn I admit I Am new I didn't say his hens were fat when got them the birds are cracking pigeons I am hurt by that I ask question if I have over fed and if I ever do in future so I know how get weight sort its hurt me getting called liar and I want to learn so I ask questionsthe only advice i can give you right now is to take it on the chin pal. keep asking the questions and you will learn .the answers you dont like ,take no notice of them ,simple as that .enjoy the birds you have , breed off them and fly the youngsters . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepigeonman Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I know I didn't say they were over weight when I git them a ment just incase I over fed them why people no ask instead off branding person liar I Am new to sport gt to learn and ask if don't ask don't get anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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