Young Bird National

[geordie1234]

This is what I was getting at Lewis fairer racing imo

[Guest stb-]

Liege in Belgium looks to have been the most spread Gold Cup race this century.

 

1st Section C

2nd Section A

3rd Section B

5th Section F

7th Section E

9th Section D

57th Section G

 

Not saying its the way to go or not.Would like to see a bit of stability regardless of whats chosen-three gold cup racepoints in three years is a bit of a nonsense

when you get a fair race point like that the B and Cs are no long in wanting it changed :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[Guest bigda]

that was the year of the foot and mouth i belive and there were jitters from the east

[JADE]

still waiting on you telling me where i can get birds that can fly 500 mile inside 8hour 50 min remember

 

Lille SNFC 2000. Liberated 6.00 a.m. SE wind. 1st Sect B 1st Open J R Aitchison & Partners, Eyemouth Vel 1890.39; 1st Sect G 5th Open Ritchie & Whyte, Fraserburgh flying time 8 hours 39 minutes, distance 528 miles 490 yards, velocity 1788.43. 2nd Sect G 40th Open S Taylor & Son, Bridge of Don flying time 8 hours 46 minutes, 497 miles 1097 yards, 1663.49. Next question???

[Guest bigda]

Lille SNFC 2000. Liberated 6.00 a.m. SE wind. 1st Sect B 1st Open J R Aitchison & Partners, Eyemouth Vel 1890.39; 1st Sect G 5th Open Ritchie & Whyte, Fraserburgh flying time 8 hours 39 minutes, distance 528 miles 490 yards, velocity 1788.43. 2nd Sect G 40th Open S Taylor & Son, Bridge of Don flying time 8 hours 46 minutes, 497 miles 1097 yards, 1663.49. Next question???

 

 

lille to eyemouth is only 420 mile next

[Guest bigda]

Lille SNFC 2000. Liberated 6.00 a.m. SE wind. 1st Sect B 1st Open J R Aitchison & Partners, Eyemouth Vel 1890.39; 1st Sect G 5th Open Ritchie & Whyte, Fraserburgh flying time 8 hours 39 minutes, distance 528 miles 490 yards, velocity 1788.43. 2nd Sect G 40th Open S Taylor & Son, Bridge of Don flying time 8 hours 46 minutes, 497 miles 1097 yards, 1663.49. Next question???

 

what type of jiggery pokery is this a bird 1st sec b 1st open getting the result the bird that flew 108 mile more than, to then get beat with a velocity difference of only 101.96 of a yard no wonder there is f all pool money in the nat on a race like that what would have been the velocity on its own for a 108 mile race 108 minutes the bird times in eyemouth would have to been in at 6 hours 51 min i dont thinks so

[Guest bigda]

Lille SNFC 2000. Liberated 6.00 a.m. SE wind. 1st Sect B 1st Open J R Aitchison & Partners, Eyemouth Vel 1890.39; 1st Sect G 5th Open Ritchie & Whyte, Fraserburgh flying time 8 hours 39 minutes, distance 528 miles 490 yards, velocity 1788.43. 2nd Sect G 40th Open S Taylor & Son, Bridge of Don flying time 8 hours 46 minutes, 497 miles 1097 yards, 1663.49. Next question???

 

 

why are you in the nat letting guys in say duns berwick and places like that get them in the unc birds flying 420 and some as little as 380 mile that should be made the minimim distance should be 520 mile to the shortest flier the guys that do further

every time have sufferd for years where a sprint birds velocity is hammering distance birds and it also has a killing on the birds that are gettin destroyed as thinking they are not good enough

[novo10]

It has been tried a number of times to change the first inland race(Newbury) to Wanstead Flats but it is always outvoted I think by the west and south members

u cant get it your own way all the time

[novo10]

canny see the west wanting tae loose milage steve the further east the better .

i maybe for you let us in west section then

[alex wight]

You will NEVER please everyone, when it comes to a national. There is always someone with the least mileage, and someone with the most mileage. Me personally, i think these races are not fair to anyone. Everyone wants to compete with everyone, but how can than be equal, when you have mileage difference from 188 miles to 370 miles. Can you imagine in athletics, 20 people are on the start line, but have to race different distances to get to the finish line. The guy that's a trained sprinter, is going to finish in 10-11 seconds, where as the marathon runner will be running for 2 hours approx. both are brilliant in their field but totally different regarding type of body build required for their race. The marathon runner will never in a month of Sundays run at the same pace as the sprinter to maintain a fair velocity. Whereas formula one would be a different kettle of fish, with the problems being reliability, fuel, tiredness, weightect. They all have the same power(approx), and will be easier to maintain the same speed from 10 seconds to 2 hours, giving a fair velocity, giving a fairer race. The arguments will always be there, unless race points were rotated to share the chance of winning. Oslo would benefit Peterhead, Ireland would benefit the west and Leicester would benefit the east. Is this likely to happen? NO, as it would never be supported by everyone. So what is the answer? go to the race if you want to be part of it, knowing the history of these races. Or don't go knowing the history of these races. Even if every single member was given the chance to vote proposals through, the sections with the biggest chance of winning will always win. This is only my opinion.

 

regards alex.

[Guest stb-]

i maybe for you let us in west section then

its better for you to the further east you go too oslo the way

 

:cry-blow:

You will NEVER please everyone, when it comes to a national. There is always someone with the least mileage, and someone with the most mileage. Me personally, i think these races are not fair to anyone. Everyone ones to compete with everyone, but how can than be equal, when you have mileage difference from 188 miles to 370 miles. Can you imagine in athletics, 20 people are on the start line, but have to race different distances to get to the finish line. The guy that's a trained sprinter, is going to finish in 10-11 seconds, where as the marathon runner will be running for 2 hours approx. both are brilliant in their field but totally different regarding type of body build required for their race. The marathon runner will never in a month of Sundays run at the same pace as the sprinter to maintain a fair velocity. Whereas formula one would be a different kettle of fish, with the problems being reliability, fuel, tiredness, weightect. They all have the same power(approx), and will be easier to maintain the same speed from 10 seconds to 2 hours, giving a fair velocity, giving a fairer race. The arguments will always be there, unless race points were rotated to share the chance of winning. Oslo would benefit Peterhead, Ireland would benefit the west and Leicester would benefit the east. Is this likely to happen? NO, as it would never be supported by everyone. So what is the answer? go to the race if you want to be part of it, knowing the history of these races. Or don't go knowing the history of these races. Even if every single member was given the chance to vote proposals through, the sections with the biggest chance of winning will always win. This is only my opinion.

 

regards alex.

[alex wight]

:cry-blow:

 

???

[Guest bigda]

get a postal vote done oslo or Germany no other choice one doo out all doos out

you cant go on like this 3 races that's all is needed soon sort the problem out, so make a proposal for next year you all want a vote get a seconder.

 

 

[dkj]

get a postal vote done oslo or Germany no other choice one doo out all doos out

you cant go on like this 3 races that's all is needed soon sort the problem out, so make a proposal for next year you all want a vote get a seconder.

 

 

are you a member of the snfc. if not join then and you can come 2 the agm and have your say.

[Guest bigda]

are you a member of the snfc. if not join then and you can come 2 the agm and have your say.

if there is a proposal for postal votes i will join i will have up to march hope there are some who will stand up for what is right even if it hurts but other peoples birds should not be suffering for the sake of a sprint bird in a race. that can have a race of that distance any where if it was me they don't qualify to fly the nat until the race is 500mile from there shed min

[dkj]

if there is a proposal for postal votes i will join i will have up to march hope there are some who will stand up for what is right even if it hurts but other peoples birds should not be suffering for the sake of a sprint bird in a race. that can have a race of that distance any where if it was me they don't qualify to fly the nat until the race is 500mile from there shed min

 

 

if thats the case the solway boys would only have one race a year. that longest one. do u think thats fair

 

and pay your membership and put your any idea u want 2 the agm

[novo10]

if thats the case the solway boys would only have one race a year. that longest one. do u think thats fair

 

and pay your membership and put your any idea u want 2 the agm

davy hes to busy lookin over wee macs wall

[sammy]

davy hes to busy lookin over wee macs wall

:emoticon-0137-clapping: :emoticon-0136-giggle:

[tiger]

if there is a proposal for postal votes i will join i will have up to march hope there are some who will stand up for what is right even if it hurts but other peoples birds should not be suffering for the sake of a sprint bird in a race. that can have a race of that distance any where if it was me they don't qualify to fly the nat until the race is 500mile from there shed min

danny you dont even go two your own fed agm,s so theres little chance of you going two any

[ALF]

the national should have a race from belmullet in west coast of ireland with this race there is no dog legging there is nothing in the way of racing pigeons if its a west wind all birds have west winds, if its a east wind all birds have a east wind perfect for all

the mesurments are correct to every ones loft from belullet to glasgow is 254mile

to edinburgh it is the correct distance of 294 mile to carlise it is 287 mile

and to aberdeen it is 368 mile the birds would have most weeks the tail wind and the hawks would have less chance of getting birds there are no ambush valleys that they sit and wait on our birds to go through, any one that cant see this as the most favourably route to fly birds in aint got the bird best interest at

heart and would you agre that the distance to aberdeen to glasgow was 105 mile

 

Danny yer dream of a race from southern Ireland might not be as far fetched as a lot of members on here seem to think i know it is being actively pursued just now and at least 1 sponsor is in place already so come on guys is there anybody out there who would be willing to give it a go???

[Guest stb-]

Danny yer dream of a race from southern Ireland might not be as far fetched as a lot of members on here seem to think i know it is being actively pursued just now and at least 1 sponsor is in place already so come on guys is there anybody out there who would be willing to give it a go???

me a wid send anywhere

[nagid]

me a wid send anywhere

me id race fae the moon

[VMS]

me id race fae the moon

whit side East or West. :lol:

[eastcoaster]

I would send anywhere.

[walterbmasson]

Oslo Gold cup east brest south faroes north in ony place in ireland ? west propose at and open it up fer abody then danny will join in a minute