Young Bird Racing In The Uk Never Mind Anywhere Else

[Guest bigda]

have we now weakened our young birds, i was talking to a old timer last night he said, and his words where, when he raced his young birds they squeaked when they went in the basket for there first 3 races, nowadays they cant get them bred and on the darkness quickly enough, he states years ago they would never have been allowed to fly aged young birds

he say in the days before they where rung if the bird did not squeak when it was lifted and turned up side down, it did not race in a young bird race, maybe we should make this rule once again in fairness to all young birds racing, can you imagine young birds on the squeak at a distance of 120 mile by the third race. and the birds making good time. he also says over the years he don't here birds squeak very much after shifting, i find this strange we have allowed this to happen in young bird racing, when we call it a fair race when it aint.

[wee eck]

have we now weakened our young birds, i was talking to a old timer last night he said, and his words where, when he raced his young birds they squeaked when they went in the basket for there first 3 races, nowadays they cant get them bred and on the darkness quickly enough, he states years ago they would never have been allowed to fly aged young birds

he say in the days before they where rung if the bird did not squeak when it was lifted and turned up side down, it did not race in a young bird race, maybe we should make this rule once again in fairness to all young birds racing, can you imagine young birds on the squeak at a distance of 120 mile by the third race. and the birds making good time. he also says over the years he don't here birds squeak very much after shifting, i find this strange we have allowed this to happen in young bird racing, when we call it a fair race when it aint.

 

 

YOU BEEN DRINKING ?? WHAT A LOAD O GUFF

[billt]

Yes a lot of truth in that post, many desperate for rings in Dec. What we race in July/Aug. can be sitting eggs etc. not really what you'd call young birds is it

[ALF]

DANNY YOU DONT HAWF TALK SOME P!SH MATE :lol: :lol:

[bigjamie]

DANNY SQUEAK SQUEAK :emoticon-0140-rofl:

[BLACK W F]

i can never remember y/bs going in race basket squeaking think you been smoking the weed Danny pmsl

[ALF]

i can never remember y/bs going in race basket squeaking think you been smoking the weed Danny pmsl

 

WELL I'LL HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT 1 ALAN AS AN EX CLUB MATE OF MINE WHO STILL FLIES A GOOD PIGEON IN OUR FED SENT A SQUEAKER TO LANCASTER A FEW YEARS BACK AND IT WON THE CLUB RACE QUITE EASILY MATE...

[Guest bigda]

Yes a lot of truth in that post, many desperate for rings in Dec. What we race in July/Aug. can be sitting eggs etc. not really what you'd call young birds is it

yes my friend you sound like a honest pilgrim and have a bit of integrity

just as i type this you get all the charlatans go gaga at the thought of racing on a level playing field

[Blue Chequer Pied]

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[Guest bigda]

sqeekers have been found in wales from lanarkshire on the same night

[Guest bigda]

i can never remember y/bs going in race basket squeaking think you been smoking the weed Danny pmsl

in days of old when they had no ring it was all they had to go by a squeak

[dwh]

WELL I'LL HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT 1 ALAN AS AN EX CLUB MATE OF MINE WHO STILL FLIES A GOOD PIGEON IN OUR FED SENT A SQUEAKER TO LANCASTER A FEW YEARS BACK AND IT WON THE CLUB RACE QUITE EASILY MATE...

gotta agree alan i put a wee blue cock in the training basket only been off 3 weeks a month later topped the fed

out of leicester he topped it again as a yearling and won 3 and 2 seconds

till we lost him out the chsnnel

[Guest chad3646]

WELL I'LL HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT 1 ALAN AS AN EX CLUB MATE OF MINE WHO STILL FLIES A GOOD PIGEON IN OUR FED SENT A SQUEAKER TO LANCASTER A FEW YEARS BACK AND IT WON THE CLUB RACE QUITE EASILY MATE...

 

 

yes that would be our walter

[MIK]

have we now weakened our young birds, i was talking to a old timer last night he said, and his words where, when he raced his young birds they squeaked when they went in the basket for there first 3 races, nowadays they cant get them bred and on the darkness quickly enough, he states years ago they would never have been allowed to fly aged young birds

he say in the days before they where rung if the bird did not squeak when it was lifted and turned up side down, it did not race in a young bird race, maybe we should make this rule once again in fairness to all young birds racing, can you imagine young birds on the squeak at a distance of 120 mile by the third race. and the birds making good time. he also says over the years he don't here birds squeak very much after shifting, i find this strange we have allowed this to happen in young bird racing, when we call it a fair race when it aint.

 

 

Bigda i dont understand what your trying to say, expletive remove most YBs will have lost their squeak by the time they are ranging. Anyone racing a squeaker has some dam good intelligent birds or they are completelty bonkers.

This early rearing and the darkness has taken YB racing to a different level, enabling fanciers to compete in the whole programme...it doesnt make them weaker by doing so. But most can become lazy and stupid if not trained early enough.

I dont agree in rings being despatched before Janurary, as you could have December reared young. Anything reared b4 Feburary will be mature enough to breed come August and have an advantage over later bred young through better motivation.

 

March/April reared for me always, and everyone to their own.

 

Less intelligent but definately not weaker imo.

 

atb

Mick

[Guest chad3646]

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have we now weakened our young birds, i was talking to a old timer last night he said, and his words where, when he raced his young birds they squeaked when they went in the basket for there first 3 races, nowadays they cant get them bred and on the darkness quickly enough, he states years ago they would never have been allowed to fly aged young birds

he say in the days before they where rung if the bird did not squeak when it was lifted and turned up side down, it did not race in a young bird race, maybe we should make this rule once again in fairness to all young birds racing, can you imagine young birds on the squeak at a distance of 120 mile by the third race. and the birds making good time. he also says over the years he don't here birds squeak very much after shifting, i find this strange we have allowed this to happen in young bird racing, when we call it a fair race when it aint.

 

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[Guest bigda]

so come on guys, take the curtain from your lofts lets see your strains meet the demand there are loads wanting young birds sent further but they don't send them baldy when they call out the race points because they know they have the upper hand there they think they are great fliers, when in fact there birds have a new suit on and they only really just beat the champion birds, and as a result the new guys in the sport think there birds are crap and they are not

[Guest bigda]

Bigda i dont understand what your trying to say, expletive remove most YBs will have lost their squeak by the time they are ranging. Anyone racing a squeaker has some dam good intelligent birds or they are completelty bonkers.

This early rearing and the darkness has taken YB racing to a different level, enabling fanciers to compete in the whole programme...it doesnt make them weaker by doing so. But most can become lazy and stupid if not trained early enough.

I dont agree in rings being despatched before Janurary, as you could have December reared young. Anything reared b4 Feburary will be mature enough to breed come August and have an advantage over later bred young through better motivation.

 

March/April reared for me always, and everyone to their own.

 

Less intelligent but definately not weaker imo.

 

atb

Mick

 

well mick i would like to see a 2 sets of ring issued just like the car, first set of rings issued at feb till march, and all birds jagged before the second issue and recorded in the club before the second set rings issued march june with a letter on A and a B added to the number

you can then have a double race,A V A B V B AND AVB on the same day and also a best bird on the day

[harry h]

i can never remember y/bs going in race basket squeaking think you been smoking the weed Danny pmsl

 

Sorry Alan I don't often disagree with you :emoticon-0140-rofl: but 1 of your own club members has entered some races with birds that were still squeeking and it wasn't me.

[VMS]

First time i heard of it i thought what a load of crap,but then some older fanciers confirmed that it was common practice in years gone by. It has no place in modern racing though.

[MIK]

well mick i would like to see a 2 sets of ring issued just like the car, first set of rings issued at feb till march, and all birds jagged before the second issue and recorded in the club before the second set rings issued march june with a letter on A and a B added to the number

you can then have a double race,A V A B V B AND AVB on the same day and also a best bird on the day

 

 

I actually like this, thats called thinking out of the box.

With the prize money now available in most big races, i dont think it will ever be passed

 

But i will test my 2 rounds this year on one race and let you know the result

 

atb

Mick

[andy Burgess]

its a romantic idea only , you wont change how things are .darkness system has been around 50 years , just not every fancier was aware of it .i have sent a squeaker to a race and gained a 2nd place with ,was done out of necessity ,and proved to me what my "mentor" taught me , to think outside the box , and pigeons are brighter than most fanciers and could teach many a lesson.

[Guest bigda]

I actually like this, thats called thinking out of the box.

With the prize money now available in most big races, i dont think it will ever be passed

 

But i will test my 2 rounds this year on one race and let you know the result

 

atb

Mick

 

 

YES let us know that is why we are hear the old hand guy tryed out things can you imagine skining tic bean to feed a bird for a nat race that would have taken an age

[Guest bigda]

its a romantic idea only , you wont change how things are .darkness system has been around 50 years , just not every fancier was aware of it .i have sent a squeaker to a race and gained a 2nd place with ,was done out of necessity ,and proved to me what my "mentor" taught me , to think outside the box , and pigeons are brighter than most fanciers and could teach many a lesson.

 

 

i think they have to be tought very early ever since they hatch out, 2 in a nest always had to make the effort to get fed first, so that is installed in them we must get in there head to bend it to our needs

[ALF]

First time i heard of it i thought what a load of crap,but then some older fanciers confirmed that it was common practice in years gone by. It has no place in modern racing though.

tO BE HONEST VINNY IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH THEY ARE OLD ENOUGH MATE ....I WOULD HAVE BEEN 2ND CLUB 2YRS AGO IN THE 3RD YB RACE WITH A YB THEAT WEE VINCE HAD BRED ME JUST FLUNG HER 1ST FLIGHT I HAD TRANSFERRED HER ON THE FRIDAY BUT SENT HER ONLY AS A TRAINER ON THE SATURDAY I NEVER SENT HER THE FOLLOWING WEEK AS I WAS SURE I WOULD GET HER AGAIN BUT SENT HER TO THE FED YB DUPLICATION RACE AND BARRING A YOUNG COCK FROM THE 2ND RACE LANDING NOT LONG BEFORE HER SHE WOULD HAVE MOST PROBABLY WON THE SECTION THAT DAY BAR HIM CHASING HER UP AND DOWN THER ROOF OF THE YB LOFT BUT I GOT HER IN FOR 7TH SECTION AND NUTTED HIM BUT HEY THAT'S DOO RACING!!!

[Guest chad3646]

have we now weakened our young birds, i was talking to a old timer last night he said, and his words where, when he raced his young birds they squeaked when they went in the basket for there first 3 races, nowadays they cant get them bred and on the darkness quickly enough, he states years ago they would never have been allowed to fly aged young birds

he say in the days before they where rung if the bird did not squeak when it was lifted and turned up side down, it did not race in a young bird race, maybe we should make this rule once again in fairness to all young birds racing, can you imagine young birds on the squeak at a distance of 120 mile by the third race. and the birds making good time. he also says over the years he don't here birds squeak very much after shifting, i find this strange we have allowed this to happen in young bird racing, when we call it a fair race when it aint.

 

can you imagine what it would be like at race marking. right next squeak squeak ok. squeak squeak ok

 

no no no squeak squeak :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl: