rikki Posted September 23, 2011 Report Posted September 23, 2011 not having time to train and race y birds this season,and bearing the thought of hanging on to untried birds would love to play catch up with all the other trainers and racers in my area ,is there a call for some Winter trainng or RACING would appreciate all your thoughts on this one ,ta
geordie1234 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Posted September 23, 2011 dont think there is winter racing i know there is a couple of xmas races but not sure about were, should just train the baws off them but if they are bred of good pigeons they should e fine
frank-123 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Posted September 23, 2011 i know some guys wait till november and pick the good days but they don't go farstill too many starving peregrine around just now looking for food
andy Burgess Posted September 23, 2011 Report Posted September 23, 2011 not having time to train and race y birds this season,and bearing the thought of hanging on to untried birds would love to play catch up with all the other trainers and racers in my area ,is there a call for some Winter trainng or RACING would appreciate all your thoughts on this one ,tatheres 3 "out of season races" with the Pentland fed , another post on here by SEAFORTH asking about the 2nd one , they would be ideal for you .... well maybe the third one now, and there is an XMAS race local-ish to us Rikki that you could try , but i myself would be un-sure as to wether that would be ideal for next years 2012 racers ?
ovy1255 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Posted September 23, 2011 personally-if you dont train them bin them.
rikki Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Posted September 24, 2011 personally-if you dont train them bin them.thanks all for your thoughts,not all were sympathetic to my situation but will bear in mind that BIN means ive wasted a full years breeding can this be true? any way will have to try and make some own time next season ta again rikki,
dal2 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 thanks all for your thoughts,not all were sympathetic to my situation but will bear in mind that BIN means ive wasted a full years breeding can this be true? any way will have to try and make some own time next season ta again rikki,No its not true!!!! Get them trained tae a short distance on the good days after they have moulted. You will loose some but at least they will know wots coming in 2012!!Race them lightly next year and then see wot happens?
Roland Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 personally-if you dont train them bin them. I hope no one believes that! Some birds never get trained in first year or two... These win out of turn and are consistant as yearlings (Some only one or two races and a couple of tosses. Some nothing till two year olds. These have won High Pau position -Sections etc. in Nationals having first race as two year olds.Indeed many don't race y/b's. Like the Widowerhood hens, many are never raced but breed great birds... Many breed early and put old rings on and race O/b season with them with great results...
geordie1234 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 I have about 8 youngbirds this year that wont get trained until im training the rest up for there first race, as for binning them that's just no fair on the birds
rikki Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Posted September 24, 2011 have just recieved some private views on this subject, must say all is not lost as prescibed!just put bin back on hold,lol
ovy1255 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 if you dont get them in the basket when they are young and only fly them around the loft during the winter -next year when you start training your losses IMO will be tremendous . i think you have got to get them to switch on their sat nav when they are young or they wont be able to as old birds.get the basket out even if its just a few miles you dont have to do 30 miles ,work them up to 10 mile your losses next year will be loads better-guaranteed.
tiger Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 got 2 agree wi roland THEY ARE BORN GOOD its up two you two get the best out of them , jmo
john cumming Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 Winter racings not a thing ive heard of in the uk other than one off specialist races at christmas ect??train them through the winter after theyve gone through the moult and if the weathers favourable and race them out next year to 250/300 miles nothing to hard, you will drop some but the majority should be fine, john
Guest IB Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 Only know of one winter race, Pentland fed area, Xmas Race, usually from likes of Morpeth around 100 miles. I think these birds specially bred & trained for that race. The last 2 winters were perishing and we have been told that will be the norm so next one likely to be same. So no, no training or racing, the birds are likely to be locked up with a foot of snow on the ground, and with good effect - outside, food is scarce, so no easy & lifesaving meals provided by us. Wait till weather improves next spring, then start training them. You will probably lose a few - last year I had '2' YB teams of 8, one trained & raced, and other trained only. This year I dropped 2/8 of those trained & raced, and 5/8 of those trained only. So I do prefer to train & race my youngsters out (full programme), but sometimes you just can't, and certainly no reason to get rid of them.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted September 24, 2011 Report Posted September 24, 2011 Our 2nd and 3rd pigeons timed from Ypres were bred in September 08.They were'nt in a basket until May 2009 but were allowed more or less to fly outside at will from weaning.As of the May they were basically tossed once or twice a week from a good distance and given the occasional single up,furthest they went was Kilmarnock(where my dad was working at the time).They did not enter a race basket until 2010.One of them in her first ever race from Coldstream-60miles was 1st Club and well up in the fed(can't remember exact position)As of this year they have been timed from Belgium and with all going to plan will go across the channel again next season Latebreds are often viewed as no hopers.Could be wrong but I think where a lot people go wrong is having them pretty much locked in the loft from weaning till they're 5 or 6 months old. An opinion for what its worth
just ask me Posted September 26, 2011 Report Posted September 26, 2011 get them basket trained at least your losses will probally be high next year but the good ones should shine though
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