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Well, it is amazing how much money people have to spend on pigeons.

The Jos Thone auction that took place in Belgium this weekend average him OVER $ 13,000 EACH for a toatal of 134 pigeons.

The man grossed over 1,323,780 EURO = £1,127,333.36 - $1,763,010.20 Canadian - USA 1,732,395.03 USD

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thats some amount of money for doos has he got anything left to sell

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thats some amount of money for doos has he got anything left to sell

He'll have plenty again next year no doubt :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0164-cash:

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he is a multi millionaire retired when he was in his early 20's he buys the best race the best and sell top notch birds

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he is a multi millionaire retired when he was in his early 20's he buys the best race the best and sell top notch birds

 

and he still isn't the best in belgium :egyptian: :egyptian:

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Are there any Basics members who have this strain, if so, how are you doing with them?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0138-thinking.gif

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Are there any Basics members who have this strain, if so, how are you doing with them?

 

Theres one fancier i know who races in the LNRC who has 3 direct children of Sumo and he has some of the best, and there responsible for 3x 1st Open LNRC, however the said fanciers Joe Connolly & Son, have 6 x 1st Open LNRC titles to there belt, so could it be good pigeons or just good fanciers?

Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS
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hmm makes you wounder :L don't like to slate some one before i have tried their birds

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recent news i found on jos

 

* Saturday, December 18, 2010

With luck this weekend killed a pigeon auction record for revenue. The complete collection of the county topmelker Jos Thone (50) makes up a great opportunity to bring in 1.25 million euros. But for that money to international bidders than the absolute world of pigeon racing.

The Flemish pigeon thrive. Three weeks ago sold the online auctioneer Pigeon Paradise (Pipa) in Knesselare already the most expensive pigeon of the world. The German-Belgian male Euro Diamond exchange of ownership for the great amount of 170,000 euros.

And today blows in the Dutch village of Thorn, just over the Belgian border, the cream of the international pigeon world gather because the entire collection of Jos Thone from As, an absolute leader in the industry, goes under the hammer.

Exceptional talent

According to Nicholas Gyselbrecht, the owner of the auction house, is Thone and Belgian ambassador of the pigeon. "He showed very early his exceptional talent. Not only are birds top performance, but also for other landlords to advise. In the world you will find descendants of his pigeons and pigeon fanciers who according to his motivations. It is therefore not surprising that there has never been this much response was for an auction. "

These are clients from the United States, Taiwan, China, Japan, Australia and twenty other countries. One of the largest Chinese newspaper even sent a reporter flying.

The expected proceeds from the auction of the 134 birds is correspondingly expensive. An example: a bid of Sedna, one of the highlights, starting at 52,000 euros. "Whether the record for most expensive pigeon will be broken, is uncertain. But may have killed the revenue record for the whole collection. Which currently stands at 1.25 million euros, says Gyselbrecht.

Jos Thone sells his life's work because he suffers from a persistent eye disease. "I love mixed emotions about the auction," he says. "I have thirty years for my birds lived and won everything. Moreover, I have the last two years lost too many pigeons. A champion die in your hands after an attack by a bird of prey: that is far more painful than my top now go to see a buyer who will take good care. "

But blood is thicker than water. "I'll train a few youngsters and does not exclude me from the proceeds of the auction maybe even buy a new top pigeon," he laughs.

To the auction in the right direction, put Pipa twenty-five employees, of whom ten telephone operators and even pigeon two guards, professional security guards the prize have to watch birds. The auction is live via the Internet.

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is thone jacking in then??

I'll train a few youngsters and does not exclude me from the proceeds of the auction maybe even buy a new top pigeon," he laughs

doesn't look like it

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i have a few pair of the jos thones have a few yearlins to try this year mostly his distance lines plus the red barcelona and national 2 lines thats 6 of the grizzles that i had in my avatar and i am delighted with them the guys who have seen and handled them are very impressed with them but time will tell how good they are

Guest mick bowler
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You know the sad thing is that Pipa think what they are doing is for the good of the sport of pigeons, when IMO all it is doing is the very opposite.

 

The way they champion the success of these sales just encourages more commercialism in the sport, the prices are hugely over inflated, birds making silly money that in a real world are worth a lot less. Who does that benefit, its not the average Joe who just wants to race and win a few races, but only those that want to make a good living out of it and fill their pockets.

 

The pigeon sport seems to of gone crazy lately, i see new relatively unproven families making £1000's per Yb, why i just dont know! I have seen good quality YBs (without the hype) go for a fraction of what these "in" strains are making and i bet that the win ration be no less.

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You know the sad thing is that Pipa think what they are doing is for the good of the sport of pigeons, when IMO all it is doing is the very opposite.

 

The way they champion the success of these sales just encourages more commercialism in the sport, the prices are hugely over inflated, birds making silly money that in a real world are worth a lot less. Who does that benefit, its not the average Joe who just wants to race and win a few races, but only those that want to make a good living out of it and fill their pockets.

 

The pigeon sport seems to of gone crazy lately, i see new relatively unproven families making £1000's per Yb, why i just dont know! I have seen good quality YBs (without the hype) go for a fraction of what these "in" strains are making and i bet that the win ration be no less.

Dont you think its the buyers from the far east in particular the chinese that are pushing up the prices.Ive watched many of these auctions on pipa where the pigeons are sitting at( expensive prices) until the last moments and in come the chinese with there astranomical bids and hoover everything up.So in order to compete with these far eastern buyers people with money are going head to head with them which results in a crazy bidding frenzy.

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Its laughable,just fanciers playing the same old pyramid selling game,just think of the dross all those dealers will be pouring onto the british shores again this year to try to get their money back,will pigeon boys never learn,if the RPRA had any balls they could close all this hype down with more stringent policeing of the pigeon net sites, comics the RACING PIGEON,BHW,ect,sad they will not because they need bhw revenue,even though its strangling the sport worst then the hawks.

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Dont you think its the buyers from the far east in particular the chinese that are pushing up the prices.Ive watched many of these auctions on pipa where the pigeons are sitting at( expensive prices) until the last moments and in come the chinese with there astranomical bids and hoover everything up.So in order to compete with these far eastern buyers people with money are going head to head with them which results in a crazy bidding frenzy.

 

Its not just the chinese.

Ian stafford paid 24000 euros for 2 birds, 14000 for the one and 10000 for the other one.

 

Heres the birds ian bought:

10,000 euros gets you:

 

 

14,000 euros gets you:

 

When you are a multiple world champion like jos has been you can demand anything.

remember he sold avril for over 100,000 euros a few years back and she was one of the highest priced pigeons ever sold.

 

I have met jos a few occasions and hes spot on, very knowledgeable and he dont mind giving you the time to answer your questions.

 

thats good in my book.

 

Well done jos.

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Its not just the chinese.

Ian stafford paid 24000 euros for 2 birds, 14000 for the one and 10000 for the other one.

 

Heres the birds ian bought:

10,000 euros gets you:

 

 

14,000 euros gets you:

 

When you are a multiple world champion like jos has been you can demand anything.

remember he sold avril for over 100,000 euros a few years back and she was one of the highest priced pigeons ever sold.

 

I have met jos a few occasions and hes spot on, very knowledgeable and he dont mind giving you the time to answer your questions.

 

thats good in my book.

 

Well done jos.

The very best of luck to MR Stafford.
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There's not a person on Earth that could convince me that a draft of pigeons are worth that much.

 

I don't know Tony... :unsure: If they are yours i don't think you would take much persuading :emoticon-0138-thinking::blink::huh::lol::lol:

Guest blythy1
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Its not just the chinese.

Ian stafford paid 24000 euros for 2 birds, 14000 for the one and 10000 for the other one.

 

Heres the birds ian bought:

10,000 euros gets you:

 

 

14,000 euros gets you:

 

When you are a multiple world champion like jos has been you can demand anything.

remember he sold avril for over 100,000 euros a few years back and she was one of the highest priced pigeons ever sold.

 

I have met jos a few occasions and hes spot on, very knowledgeable and he dont mind giving you the time to answer your questions.

 

thats good in my book.

 

Well done jos.

 

 

i dont think ian did mate because The Artificial Jutta went for 20.000 EUR and Dora Mar went for 55.000 EUR.

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A was watching the sale from the start, what got me was, when the cameras went around the room, there want much at the sale, yes there was a few on the phone and internet, but didnt take ma fancy, ;) JMO

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