sapper756 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) I have been to a few shows and observed fanciers move a certain colour of bird to another pen they have been allocated, because someone has put a bird of the same colour next to theirs, ie, a blue next to another blue. or a red next to another red. So do the assume that judges may compare colours when so close to each other?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif also some do not like to be allocated either the first pen or the last penhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif Any views on this?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif Thank Youhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif Edited November 13, 2010 by sapper756 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showman Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Judges will compare 2 birds side by side if the colours are the same. Also shows held at say club level where the pens may be tiered, the fanciers will take a long look at their pen allocation and decide where to place each of their entries. Years ago I had a blue w/f cock (Pure Dordin bred from a pair of directs) which when in a top pen looked far too showy, but I soon 'caught on', and always placed him in a middle or bottom pen after that. Wish I had a pound for every card he won after that !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Pen position is important, try and get your best yin in between two ugly fkers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Pen position is important, try and get your best yin in between two ugly fkers like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 surely be worth putting two ugly uns in between yer best lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Staffs Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 its all just to help your birds stand out! a good blue white flight looks cushty in between a pair of cheqers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.massey Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 I dont think it matters. The winner is the winner. Would not bother me is 12 blues where in a line. Would still put a blue in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE FIFER Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Think at some shows the light sometimes are different at the pens, which shouldn't be,but if it's clubs using others premises etc it does vary, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted October 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I have been to a few shows and observed fanciers move a certain colour of bird to another pen they have been allocated, because someone has put a bird of the same colour next to theirs, ie, a blue next to another blue. or a red next to another red. So do the assume that judges may compare colours when so close to each other?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif also some do not like to be allocated either the first pen or the last penhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif Any views on this?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif Thank Youhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif Since we are once again approaching the Show season, I thought I would bring this thread up againhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/egyptian.gif WHAT DO JUDGES LOOK FOR WHEN PICKING THEIR WINNER?http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0126-nerd.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0126-nerd.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticon-0126-nerd.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Since we are once again approaching the Show season, I thought I would bring this thread up again WHAT DO JUDGES LOOK FOR WHEN PICKING THEIR WINNER? clean birds,lice free birds,good body,good feathering ,good chequering,good flights,good bars,nice white wattles are a few them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordiejen Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 cleanliness.i can tell when the fancier has spent the time getting the birds prepared.if i were judging i would mark a bird down if i found dirt on it that wasnt fresh,deffo disqualify a bird that has lice.i would not mark down a bird who has feather damage due to them being out flying or racing.a nice bloom on the bird is good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 clean birds,lice free birds,good body,good feathering ,good chequering,good flights,good bars,nice white wattles are a few themWhat in a eyesign show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodedclaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 What do you all think about grizzles being in a show i was told that judges do not even look at them goodluck jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Burgess Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 What do you all think about grizzles being in a show i was told that judges do not even look at them goodluck jimhad red grizzles for my son to show at one time ............ never done a thing , not a card in sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodedclaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 here i have 1 that was 1 club 2 fed out off 3500 birds and will not win a card at a show because it is a grizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQuinn Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Since we are once again approaching the Show season, I thought I would bring this thread up again WHAT DO JUDGES LOOK FOR WHEN PICKING THEIR WINNER? This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodedclaw Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 john mines 1st yours 2nd now lol...... in a show yours 1st mines last out of 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 What do you all think about grizzles being in a show i was told that judges do not even look at them goodluck jimI put a young grizzle hen in the Aberdeen show 300 mile class judged by Les Kilshaw and it took 1st against old birds and then won best young bird in show,I'v had a few tickets with my grizzles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I put a young grizzle hen in the Aberdeen show 300 mile class judged by Les Kilshaw and it took 1st against old birds and then won best young bird in show,I'v had a few tickets with my grizzles we have a lovely grizzle cock who has had quite a few first prizes,it all depends on the judge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 i have a Blue pied cock 3 1sts and a 5th TTw in 4 shows but never bred a feather racing so me thinks it's the big loft in the sky for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.massey Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 i have a Blue pied cock 3 1sts and a 5th TTw in 4 shows but never bred a feather racing so me thinks it's the big loft in the sky for him Give him to me :emoticon-0136-giggle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just ask me Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 why do judges not like grizzles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 why do judges not like grizzles pure whites , does anyone know of these being successful in the shows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 pure whites , does anyone know of these being successful in the shows? been to countless shows and have only ever seen one white pigeon and it never got a card Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonwoo Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 I think you are all living in a dream world. I'd the bird is good enough to win then it will. Pen position will not make a bird any better. The judge will pick out the right bird no matter what pen it's in. If you show at a proper show then you can't change the pen positions. For instance Blackpool. Paperwork is filled in before you get there and you can't shuffle birds around. The huge will sort them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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